WOW Cellular Shut Off By T-Cellular, hear the true story right here, do not hearken to what the rivals are irresponsibly reporting.


Liberty Worldwide and WOW Cellular was on high of this with T-Cellular from the very starting. Additionally they stored their distributors knowledgeable on what was taking place by the inner Liberty Worldwide E-mail system…
Date: 2/24/2010
NEWSFLASH! To listen to Liberty Founder Randy Jeffers and a T-Cellular Govt speak in regards to the present T-Cellular subject, name 218-936-4703 and enter Entry Code 840139.
Date: 2/24/2010
Randy’s Thought for the Day for T D Enterprises,
Jan Ashford says… “There is no such thing as a such factor as cannot, solely will not. If you happen to’re certified, all it takes is a burning need to perform, to make a change. Go ahead, go backward. No matter it takes! However you’ll be able to’t blame different folks or society generally. All of it comes out of your thoughts. Once we do the not possible we understand we’re particular folks.” Have a completely unimaginable day! Randy
Date: 2/24/2010
NEWSFLASH! INSTRUCTIONS TO REACTIVATE YOUR “WOW Cellular” T-Cellular SERVICE: Everybody ought to be again up and working. T-Cellular was diligent and immediate in correcting the error. If you’re unable to make and/or obtain calls please observe these steps: Please flip your telephone off after which energy again as much as reset your telephone service. NOTE: A few of you could have to open your browser or google maps earlier than with the ability to make and obtain calls. Thank You!
Date: 2/23/2010
NEWSFLASH! T-Cellular Replace… We skilled a difficulty with about half of of the T-Cellular clients. There was some inside subject that precipitated this and due to the character of what occurred, they had been unable to show all of them on directly however had a employees of individuals turning the accounts on one after the other. They count on them to be accomplished inside the hour, nonetheless a lot of them are already again on. We could have a full rationalization by T-Cellular administration tomorrow and can get that info out to everybody. Clearly, they’re very sorry for this and can implement no matter is important to ensure it doesn’t occur once more. We, likewise, are very sorry for any inconvenience this will have precipitated. Thank You…
Date: 2/23/2010
NEWSFLASH! We’re presently experiencing a difficulty with about half of of our T-Cellular accounts companywide. T-Cellular is working to resolve this subject and expects to have it resolved shortly.
So, earlier than leaping to conclusions, attain out to MLM Assist Desk for the details.
Residing An Epic Journey,
Troy

1 COMMENT

  1. I want to state that Panther Mobile Reported By me Chris Greco By information directly from T-Mobile Corporate, and Contacts through Simple Mobile Who we are a Master Distributor, and is an affiliate of T-Mobile. Ok So we were told that Wow was shut off for two reasons, One that Bills were not paid, and Two that their was a proprietary issue with the phones being flashed to WOW, Now what does that mean? As randy jeffers said himself on the call T-Mobile DID SAY TO WOW CUSTOMERS THAT their phones were shut off for non-payment, And this was told to WOW customers Directly from T-Mobile, Now I can only speak for what Panther has said, Not light year or anyone else, I have said multiple times on this forum that people should also look at WOW as well as Panther, and I only considered Wow competition, Panther Does not need to make things up to Beat our competition, We can beat WOW just off the fact we have ATT,T-mobile,Verizon,Sprint,Nextel,Boost,SimpleMobile,Platinumtel,XtremeMobile, and others, We just have more options, So thats what I can say on that, So This did not come from us but T-mobile. We called Them First before we reported on it, and T-Mobile or someone saying they are from T-Mobile said they made a mistake. But I will continue to say Wow has a nice service with T-mobile and look at the company as well as panther before making your decision, I still say that panther beats Wow in shear products you can sell alone. and price as our Unlimited everything and tethering is only 54.99 not 79.99 like Wow. Thats what I have to say on this subject.
    Chris Greco

    • Chris,
      I am going to address your comment personally before anyone else has the opportunity. We have always been very straightforward with each other so I think you fully understand where I am coming from.
      1. If anyone inside of any of the T-Mobile Corporate offices divulged any information about WOW Mobile or any other of your competitors, then they and you just opened yourselves up to several civil and possibly criminal lawsuits. Although I sure don't speak for Randy Jeffers or WOW, I can say if I were in his shoes I would see this as a blatant act of corporate sabotage or at the very least tortuous interference of business. And from the emails I have received and the phone call itself, there is no denying the intent of the message.
      2. Stating publicly that T-Mobile corporate personally told you about the purported private concerns of WOW Mobile also places your own T-Mobile account at risk because you have implemented them in what some may see as a conspiracy to monopolize the MLM Wireless arena where T-Mobile is concerned. Sadly, if Global Verge decides to sue you, they can not pull WOW Mobile in as a witness to your actions of trying to sabotage the Global Verge business, and they might win.
      3. You are correct as to what the retail stores and the CS reps stated. However, this was due to limited information based on the fact WOW handles their own Tech and CS calls.
      4. You relayed private information, purportedly from T-Mobile publicly which shows your intent is well beyond "just competition" as a matter of fact it may be a sign that Panther is fully aware WOW is more than just a competitor. On that note I am not aware of any other MLM company period who has the same type of relationship with T-Mobile as WOW has.
      This situation is unacceptable. I am willing to work with all companies when they compete openly and honestly with each other. However, when a company is blatant about propagating false or hurtful information about a competitor in the hopes of damaging their reputation, then I have to take a whole new look at the underlying motive of the company and its founders.

      • Troy We didnt violate any WOW privacy, When a WOW rep gives me their account info, We wanted to know why they were turned off, So when it is a WOW representative that gives us that info, Its NOT a violation of privacy, perriod Further, after We confirmed they were turned off for non payment Two more reps who contacted us had the same issue, They came to Us for help, The reps told us where they paid their bills etc, As for Global Verge, We are already suing them, After doing further research we found WOW has no MVNO agreement with T-mobile, As for my intent troy, Lets be real, If I wanted to hurt Wow I would point out every single weakness that company has but my posts speak for themselves, I have done nothing but speak to the fact that Wow is the ONLY company I consider Competition, Further if you read my older posts you would see that I told GV reps to look at Wow as well as Panther, So I dont see that as sabotage, Now if I am wrong I would admit that, I reported on the call Info Provided to us From T-Mobile from the accounts of Three seperate WOW mobile customers, That in no way is violating WOW's Privacy, Further as for our agreements they are intact, and couldnt be better, further we have added even other countries, So the information that was relayed was from customers, just as if people contacted you and said panther customers were down, No different, As for Panther thinking Wow is more than Competiton, Nope but nice try, I give credit where credit is due plain and simple, I have said this about GI Connect as well as WOW troy, and that is just the facts as anyone else can read my other posts, We dont need to sabotage as you say a company to beat them, We can beat wow just for the simple fact commission is higher and the plan is lower plain and simple. 54.99 is much cheaper than 79.99 plain and simple. No did you notice the gentleman on the WOW call never said where he was from or what division of t-mobile he was from?. Thats neither here nor there, Look I was not attempting to Sabotage Wow mobile, And again I will state that I feel they are the only other company in this arena that actually can provide what they say as far as activating service, As I Have Said Before, Further I tried to contact WOW yesterday to get a statement as to what had happened, I could not reach one person. So take it for what it is worth, What I said was a fact, and was not meant to hurt or damage their business, And we are competing openly and honestly with WOW, our plan is 54.99 a month we have openly announced that. As for hurtful information, Verizon and AT&T go back and forth every day, ever see the commercials for verizon that says "theres a map for that" Are they wrong?
        As for Global Verge Trying to sue me, we know that wont happen, we are suing them, and if me telling the truth about Global Verge is sabotage then I will take that with Pride, Cause I WILL NOT SIT IDLY BY WHILE GLOBAL VERGE DEFRAUDS THE DISTRIBUTORS FOR ONE DAY TROY, and if anyother company enters telecom that does as GV DOES I WILL DO THE SAME AND EXPOSE THEM, so I dont think WOW is that company. So If I am wrong for telling people in our field on a leadership call about what happened at Wow, So Be it I am wrong, Do I think I am Wrong for that, No i dont but I have been wrong before, But here I dont think I am.

        • Chris… Plain and simple.. Does Panther offer free service?? Your gig may offer a cheaper plan but does not offer free… anyway moving on… Nice try in the attempt to "put down" WoW mobile. Do you REALLY expect NORMAL customer service reps at T-Mobile to understand OR know exactly what is going on with the WoW Mobile Account. T-Mobile has a handful of people that deal with the account, they are not going to expose to your or anybody else BUT the account holders exactly what is going on? The account holders are Liberty International. They are going to tell you what they are told to say, or tell you what they "think" is going on. I like panther and think it's great, we just completed contract with 2 more carriers and will be adding them to our line of carriers as well and will offer the ability to obtain FREE service with them just like we currently do with T-Mobile. Anyway, good report Troy… I have sent several people to this video in the last week. Have a good one Chris.

    • This needs to stop. I'm more concerned with building my business with Panther Mobile. I'm not interested in other companies management and billing issues. It doesn't do Panther Mobile any good to be reporting anything about other companies whether it is good or bad.
      The fact is Panther Mobile has a wider range of prepaid services on different levels and that is what is going to make the difference as far as capturing pure customers. We are not priced out of the main stream market with typical mlm inflated prices. This is the difference we need to focus on and challenge our competitors to do the same.

  2. Hello Troy!
    Thanks for being YOU! "HONEST" !! I got this phone call 2days ago I won't name any names but they called me just to tell me that WOW Mobile was going down for chip fraud or some thing like that and that they were "Shut Off" !!! Judging from where the call came from I was very skeptical about what he was telling me. I have a good friend in WOW mobile and trusting him like I do he would have told me if this was true. Well I asked him and he said yes they were shut down but it was an accident by T-mobile, an "Accident" People !
    I honestly think people should keep there mouth shut until they honestly get the facts. I know this person might have been excited about it, that WOW was shut off by T-mobile. But lets be honest people and wait for the truth.
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  3. This was a T-Mobile problem…phones were up very quickly…T-Mobile CEO / top management did a public broadcast to Liberty reps with Randy saying the problem was purely T-Mobile and "they dropped the ball"
    T-Mobile made it clear to the IR's it was only a small portion of Wows phones and others.
    So there you have it…

  4. T-Mobile loves WOW!
    T-Mobile is stoked to be with Wow !, Randy Jeffers is perhaps one of the most respected people and the greatest leader in corporate telecom. Randy's just a fabulous person and those who deal with him admire the professional relationship he brings.
    Randy is just quality all the way…thats why i joined Wow Mobile. The A+ communication / relationship he has with the providers and also the field is fantastic.
    Troy you know Randy…and hes taking Wow to the top…all those who are under the Randy Jeffers umbrella are on a great ship.

      • Here we go Ben Sturnevent of Light year wireless at it again…
        Randy Jeffers has been running Liberty 10 years out of Texas were the Attorney General carries a shot gun for MLM scam companies. Liberty passes with flying colors !!!
        Liberty has operated 10 years never NOT delivered a product or a Pay check….10 YEARS !!!!!!!!!
        Liberty International is doing amazing deals with Tier 1 providers…like T-Mobile and others coming… "big corporate America"…they are excited, comfortable and have a trusting relationship of Liberty International.
        Troy perhaps you can set this straight…
        This guy is all out to trash Randy Jeffers…
        The only Vision he has is running Scared…

  5. Troy Dooly; I’m Damn proud of you! Glad to see that you have set this straight. Was worried about you there for a while. I’m glad to see you set people straight also!! Fair play in competition is the only way to hold your head up as honest. Taking advantage of someone’s misfortunes is fair play as long as it is a viable setback caused by an unscrupulous misdeed or misdirected step on the opponents’ side. Ole boy stepped out there way to quick. And oh hell yea, Chris Greco has a major problem if he got private information about a competitor from a corporate staff member. Chris, you have fumbled the ball there bud.

    • Troy We didnt violate any WOW privacy, When a WOW rep gives me their account info, We wanted to know why they were turned off, So when it is a WOW representative that gives us that info, Its NOT a violation of privacy, perriod Further, after We confirmed they were turned off for non payment Two more reps who contacted us had the same issue, They came to Us for help, The reps told us where they paid their bills etc, As for Global Verge, We are already suing them, After doing further research we found WOW has no MVNO agreement with T-mobile, As for my intent troy, Lets be real, If I wanted to hurt Wow I would point out every single weakness that company has but my posts speak for themselves, I have done nothing but speak to the fact that Wow is the ONLY company I consider Competition, Further if you read my older posts you would see that I told GV reps to look at Wow as well as Panther, So I dont see that as sabotage, Now if I am wrong I would admit that, I reported on the call Info Provided to us From T-Mobile from the accounts of Three seperate WOW mobile customers, That in no way is violating WOW's Privacy, Further as for our agreements they are intact, and couldnt be better, further we have added even other countries, So the information that was relayed was from customers, just as if people contacted you and said panther customers were down, No different, As for Panther thinking Wow is more than Competiton, Nope but nice try, I give credit where credit is due plain and simple, I have said this about GI Connect as well as WOW troy, and that is just the facts as anyone else can read my other posts, We dont need to sabotage as you say a company to beat them, We can beat wow just for the simple fact commission is higher and the plan is lower plain and simple. 54.99 is much cheaper than 79.99 plain and simple. No did you notice the gentleman on the WOW call never said where he was from or what division of t-mobile he was from?. Thats neither here nor there, Look I was not attempting to Sabotage Wow mobile, And again I will state that I feel they are the only other company in this arena that actually can provide what they say as far as activating service, As I Have Said Before, Further I tried to contact WOW yesterday to get a statement as to what had happened, I could not reach one person. So take it for what it is worth, What I said was a fact, and was not meant to hurt or damage their business, And we are competing openly and honestly with WOW, our plan is 54.99 a month we have openly announced that. As for hurtful information, Verizon and AT&T go back and forth every day, ever see the commercials for verizon that says "theres a map for that" Are they wrong?

    • Look we didnt get PRIVATE INFO, this was info given by three different people who all had WOW service plain and simple and none of the three know each other, I called to confirm, And had the account holders permission, plain and simple, and read the other posts I have done nothing but say good things about wow, further I tell everyone on our calls that is comming from another company to check out both WOW and US, listen to it for yourself thats All i will say about that.

      • So you got three people who are upset about phone issues. You, being a good guy, help them to find out what the problem is. You talk with some low level billing rep and find out, sure enough there is a small billing issue. How it went from that to the major fiasco it turned into boggles my slow mind. I see one possibility, there may be another but this is the one I’m thinking. >Maybe you misinterpreted something you heard and in a punch drunk giddiness overstated it to your team reps in an attempt to give them an advantage for recruiting purposes<. Any way you look at it you pissed some folks off; maybe you noticed ole Troy in the video post above. – Scared me. Started squirming around thinking I did something wrong. – You did what you did, you said what you said, own it. That was a knucklehead business blunder. The ones you have wronged need to hear from you.

        • I have owned it guy, I never disputed I said it, no excuses, I was wrong for doing more research, But I said it plain and simple, I have already acknowledged that I am wrong for not doing my research, But what I said was fact, whether it was a billing issue or not, Thats what was said.
          We reported it, End of story, If WOW people are upset at that, So be it, Further I have done nothing but talk good about WOW here, read the posts, But I guess I need to stop talking good about wow on our calls and here too huh?

      • Chris you need to stop bashing other companies and direct that energy into building your company. Just stop Chris, stop. You are a professional businessman, that’s what your company needs to see and what your associates deserve to see. As far as Global Verge, we’ve had enough of that. Time to handle that business to business. Don’t tell us show us.
        Good luck to you. The services you are taking to Panther Mobile look hard to beat.
        Now, prove it!

        • Thisway Thatway,
          I have to agree with you on this one. As a matter of fact this may have already started to have a reverse effect for Panther. The offline emails I am receiving are clearing stating people will not join Panther if they are the last company around because they want leaders who focus on building their brand, not burning down others.

        • Tell Ben to behave this way too !
          Just a bunch of sore losers…man up and go get some reps…and build !
          Sure you have adversity in the face with Wow…stop whining like little girls…and being pathetic on this forum…your looking terrible…would the NFL recruit wimps like you guys…let alone a strong woman want to part of you two ??? please !
          American needs leaders !

      • Well Chris maybe you can forgive me, as well as maybe some others, for our confusion in misinterpreting your above statements that you got your information “directly from T-Mobile Corporate, and Contacts through Simple Mobile” and “we were told that Wow was shut off for two reasons, One that Bills were not paid, and Two that their was a proprietary issue with the phones being flashed to WOW”. Bud I’ll be the first to admit I’m a little slow but when I read those statements I’m hearing this fella Chris is getting some information from high up.

  6. Many people did not even know there phones were down. I want to thank Troy for his being here to watch over all the garbage that gets thrown. I feel bad for Troy and many others that allowed Chris to use this site as a promo tool to make a name and biz for himself. I think we now might see a glimse of the GV side of Chris. Thank you Troy.

  7. Troy lets play fair and yes avery body make mistakes don't get mad and be neutral thats what a came to this blog be fair.
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    • I'm glad WOW has the phones back up. I have a couple of friends who are in WOW and would hate to see them with that kind of problems. I would hate to see anything bad happen to WOW, because it just gives the industry a bad name. I have people who are so scared to buy service from an affiliate based business (MLM) that its difficult. They are scared that the company might shut down and they lose service. Guys keep it up and keep on doing a great job and we can all make our dreams come true.

    • BEFAIRWEHAVETHEWORLD …
      It's not unfair to say that forums in general offer opportunity for community members to get to know one another and build relationships outside the forum itself. Not having an email address or phone number in a forum doesnt allow another forum/community member to communicate with another privately or even publicly except INSIDE the forum wether or not it be this specific one or some other!
      NO ONE here as far as we can see SO pearly white and can throw stones at anyone else's glass house without cracking a pane of their own. Let's all remain professional and treat OUR business's as what they are …OURS to share but NOT ours to bear witness and DO harm to others for the sake of the almighty dollar!
      We've said this before and we'll PROUDLY say it again here: Principles and Character BEFORE Money! Lose one or the other – you might as well go join a circus because that's the only place dog and pony shows last… for at least a little while!

      • ConcernedMLMer states the opposite two blogs above about Wow…
        Question: MLMer…can you get FREE from Lightyear forever ?…like NO BILLS EVER!
        Troy he will never answer this…I will…Answer = NO !!!
        Lightyear is Never FREE…Never Will Be…Here in lies the difference
        American Public…please understand Wow Mobile is the ONLY company to get FREE Cell Phone Service…NO BILLS
        WHY LISTEN TO ConcernedMLMer….what he is promoting (LY)…is "NOT" Competitive to WOW!
        and takes money off Americans and Wow does Not!

          • OK Ben whats your come back to this with LY . Answer exactly about FREE Service
            (Now no smoke and mirrors like $100 off a bill when you recruit 2, or we have shiny offices)
            That's why Wow is putting a lashing on LY in the market place'.
            Reps know it, with the internet…soon America will know it
            Ben are you there ?

        • C'Mon Man! I like the WOW concept, I really do. It's simple and easy to understand. It's catchy, no doubt. But calling competitors with $30 Million in wireless revenue "not competitive" is silly. Furthermore, Sam Cleaver stated it best below… Most people that just buy service have no interest in selling it to anyone, even though they "can". Most people that just want service are going to buy it, and never refer anyone. Reps do that. Thus, their bill isn't free. It's nice that the reps can get their bill paid for at WOW, but LY has a tremendous program as well for that, and there are many people that prefer the compensation plan over WOW's. Again, nothing against your deal, but have a little perspective on what you say here if you want people to take you seriously. I've had LY service since 2008, and haven't paid a bill yet, nor will I ever. I kind of like that, not to mention the checks I get every week…

  8. I'm glad WOW has the phones back up. I have a couple of friends who are in WOW and would hate to see them with that kind of problems. I would hate to see anything bad happen to WOW, because it just gives the industry a bad name. I have people who are so scared to buy service from an affiliate based business (MLM) that its difficult. They are scared that the company might shut down and they lose service. Guys keep it up and keep on doing a great job and we can all make our dreams come true.

  9. Why does WOW management sound like Global Verge all over again? Did they really not pay the bills and tell the reps that it was all T-Mobile's fault? So what's the truth? I'm all for fair competition, but if WOW management is telling lies to the field to cover up something else, then I'd start asking questions instead of praising how great they handled the hiccup. I was forgiving of all the hiccups of GV, and all it got me was a bad smear on my face to all those I signed up (and a lot of money down the drain).
    If Chris did verify that WOW didn't pay their bills from 3 sources, then that should make the WOW reps take notice. But if that's a lie, then shame on Chris and he should be hung by his balls. I believe those in position who take advantage of innocent distributors should all be castrated!
    As of now, I'm happy with Panther Mobile and the direction they're headed. Harry, Kevin, and Chris have been straight up with the field so far. But if there is a sign of any kind of any kind of inaccuracies or anything fishy going on, I'll be the first to report it here.
    But for now, Panther Mobile is where it's at!!!

  10. Roland,
    I find your comment interesting. Let's compare the two companies real quick.
    1. Global Verge has never produced what they promised. Liberty International aka WOW Mobile has been delivering for 10 years
    2. Global Verge Leadership refuses to talk publicly. Randy Jeffers talks freely, even after I nailed him hard for past failures
    3. Global Verge makes up excuses. Randy gets the Vender on the phone to explain what happened
    4. Global Verge makes excuses. Liberty International send out emails to calm the fears of the field.
    Now on to the other comments.
    1. Exactly what lie did WOW leadership tell the field?
    2. Chris did not verify anything at all. All he was able to do is call the main number and based on the computer it stated the account holders had not paid the bill, not WOW. This in and of itself will happen any time the accounting is being handled by a 3rd party.
    Now as for Panther and the boys. SO far they have delivered as promised, which is not an issue. However, Chris does have a tendency of acting before all the facts are available. And with all that has happened in the MLM Wireless arena in the last 12 months, it would be best for the distributors in all companies for people to verify all info about competitors before just publicly talking.

    • Troy you are right that in this point in time in mlm wireless all the facts should be gathered first and no assumtions should be made, and I will stand by what I said but yes I do feel I should have waited for a statement by wow and in the future I will do as such
      Chris Greco

    • Troy,
      WOW did not deliver as promised. For almost a year they were pushing that their WiFI VOIP/Wireless product was going to revolutionize the industry (their words, not mine). That did not work out. They've only had their relationship with T-Mobile for a little over 2 months and already have had problems. Whether it was their fault or not doesn't make a difference. When you don't control your product then you're at the mercy of the provider.
      Panther hasn't proven anything. They have a LONG way to go before I start giving them kudos.

  11. Troy, I want to thank you. We are so worried about who is better and being competitive, that we need to focus on our own business. I have been guilty of giving the WOW reps a little bit of a hard time in the past month and ragging my buddies at WOW about some small stuff. We need to support each other and not tear each other down. I wish WOW the best (just get Randy to change the customer thing)(couldn't resist) and look forwards to a good friendly competition.

  12. ConcernedMLMer,
    You're a little off the mark my friend.
    1. I've had in my Possession beta testing both the WOW VoIP phone and the Tradional (with tethering) T-Mobile phone since back in November. This is more than two months, and WOW had been working on the VoIP even before that.
    2. When it was clear the phone would not be to the standard required for the public, WOW pulled it and moved to the T-Mobile tradional phone. They were very up fornt on the issue and made it clear people could continue to test the phone but it would not go public.
    3. The new phone I am receiving which is totally WOW Mobile and not branded T-Mobile from the manufacturers website looks pretty rocking all in itself.
    Now, I 100% agree with you on the fact, when you can't control the product, you are at the mercy of your venders and strategic partners. But… I just ready those very words in the latest 8K of a MLM telcom company I respect, who in some cases have the very same issues.
    But, if we come together as a profession, and support each other, instead of trying to kill our wounded, then just maybe we can dominate the rest of the telecom world.

  13. Here is something for Consumtion Check the IP ADDRESS CHECK IT ALL, IT CAME IN TO VODA TEXT, they said they need a solution Fast!! THIS CONFIRMS GV HAS NOTHING! it is great news for wow mobile and panther, and I felt it should be out there!!!
    Form: ID 719
    Date: 02-26-2010 17:44:18
    IP Address: 24.123.106.12
    Network Location: Overland Park, Kansas, United States
    A Join Question has just arrived.
    My contact request is for:: Sales Department
    Questions or Concerns: interested in offering this product to our many 1000s of customers. We are activating 1000s with simple mobile but do not like doing business with them. Please call me to discuss. Can these sims be branded, or are they ATT sims? or Tmobile? We need a new solution fast as we have 100s of activations to do and do not want to do them on simple
    Telephone: 816-256-3595
    Name: mark petschel
    Best Time To Call: ASAP
    Time Zone: Central
    Email Address: mark@globalverge.com

    • Is this legal to post this on here? I'm not a fan of Global Verge but this MLM Telecom War has gone too far and is like a soap opera. Companies slandering and bashing each other to try and make the other one look good. To honest all this crap has turned me off from the telecom industry. True everyone is trying to make a living but you have to reach a point when you say enough is enough. This seems like a bunch of adults acting like kids gossiping and trying to kick each other in the stomach. If your company is great, then let it speak for itself. Personally I think Panther Mobile might have something great, but as a web guy, I can't get over the fact that there websites SUCK! Looking at it from a customer standpoint and for people who do internet marketing this isn't a good thing. If I was a customer, I wouldn't order anything from that site. Liberty International site SUCK too. What is it with these companies? Do they not appear is an element of marketing as well? Capitalizing on Global Verge disaster is cool I guess..LOL But what happens next? People are jumping all over the place because of their emotions right now in this mlm telecom crap. As far as I'm concerned, I've yet to see any mlm telecom company that has the complete package. Lightyear is the closest one in my opinion. They only thing I see them lacking is competitive plans and phone pricing. A customer only website should be mandatory for these mlm wireless companies but they just don't seem to get that. When it's all said and done, a solid customer base is what's going to keep paychecks stable. Corporate leadership is mandatory too. Alot of these corporate people in these telecom companies have been acting like babies and real childish. I'm pissed and turned off by all of it. Anyway, good luck to you all who are in the mlm telecom industry and I hope things turn around for the better. However, I will continue to be an affiliate so I can sell for anything major telecom company across the board. It's always have been a price war in telecom and it always will be. Once you put MLM and telecom together, there has to be an huge incentive for a customer to become your customer versus going with a major carrier. Right now only one MLM Telecom Company get's that.
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      • Reginald,
        This comment should get everyone to ponder what is most important in their life… Building their business or trying to prove they have a business to build by pointing out the flaws in others.
        Reminds me of the Bible verse where it talked about… Don't point out the splinter in your brother's eye, until you have removed the 2×4 in your own.

        • Your right Troy I wont say nothing Else concerning Global Verge, And as people as myself go quiet, Guess what happens, Global verge Will get more and More people in that are unsuspecting and dont do their research and history, But For the sake of this site, I wont say anything else about GV here, But when more un suspecting distributorsget caught in that web, its not on me, I have said my piece and done everything I can to expose the absolute SCAM that is GV, What ill do from now on is crush everyone else with more products, Higher commissions, More benefits, etc. So we will let the products and service at panther talk for itself and hope no one else gets burned by Global Verge

          • Chris,
            None of us are talking about Global Verge. They made their bed and have to lay in it. And there may be more companies which come out of GV which will raise red flags. However, the goal is to build legitimate companies and keep the focus in that area. To much time spent focusing on the weaknesses of other companies may not expose those in our own.

          • Troy your are 100 percent right, and after talking with my leaders in the field I am going to focus 100% on training my distributors in the wireless business. This all starts hands on Thursday, I'll be in south Carolina and Georgia, having training sesions teaching anyone that wants to learn that's wow, panther, gg-newco.,gi connect, and of course I am not charging anyone to come and learn about the business, and I will NOT recruit anyone, this is to have the distributor more informed about telecom so that when a company comes out and says they have a super phone the distributors can call bs . Also for my distributors in panther it looks better for us as a company if our distributors are knowledgable. So moving forward I will be focusing more on giving the distributors info on wireless instead of teaching them the rotten side of it, and as a leader and owner u have to lead by example, I haven't been, so it's time I step up and give the distributors what they need. Info on the inner workings of this industry.

      • Reginald, you echo my sentiments almost word for word. Well spoken! And I like Troy's reply referencing Matthew 7:4-5 "How can you say to your brother, ‘Allow me to extract the straw from your eye’; when, look! a rafter is in your own eye? 5 Hypocrite! First extract the rafter from your own eye, and then you will see clearly how to extract the straw from your brother’s eye."
        JB

      • Maybe I'm biased, but it shows the lies that the GV leaders are promoting. Yes it should be out there. GV lied for a long time and has taken reps money without delivering on the products that they promised were there, but never materialized.
        Now for other ligit companies, no, tearing them down is a waste of time. I have given WOW reps a hard time, but I have no bad feelings towards them. I am sure I am not their favorite person, but I have dealt fair with them. If anyone thinks I am unfair, or off base in any of my comments let me know.

    • Troy and Chris
      First I must say that I appreciate Chris bringing this to our attention, even if this is for wow comments. That's just funny as hell. Ole Mark just keeps on! ROFLOL………
      Troy, why don't you do a piece on Panther. Maybe that would give the Panther folks a place to vent.
      Besides, I for one would like to know what you see in this company. But then again I'm sure there would be those from other companies going to comment too.
      While it's true this is for wow, I'm sure alot of people follow some or all of these companies when thinking about joining one. I do agree 100% on all the bashing, unless it's really deserved as in the case of Mark Petschel.
      Yes Chris should have kept the wow info to himself, but I believe he was trying to be helpful in showing the sales dept. request from GV. Still laughing…….. I feel really terrible for all of the folks that company has and continues to rip-off.
      I also agree that GV part 2 may be entertaining, to say the least.
      I'm glad to see ANY company who is currently doing it RIGHT with respect to it's distributor's!

  14. Hey Troy, high five to ya, I don't know this Chris guy and have been with Wowmobile and Liberty International since Sept. '09, they have undersold and overdelivered from day1 ! This company has its distributors as its first priority and thats alot more than I can say for so many other companies. As for Chris–U can't Beat FREE! so just give it a rest already-your reputation is going down like the Titanic buddy. Troy, with true sincerity, this company has allowed many average people who just want to eliminate a monthly expense, that in these economic times, is a great service! Thank you and keep up the transparency of this site!!

    • Richard you Want to know how we beat free, Higher commissions, More products so when a company like the one you use drops the ball our whole business doesnt come screaching to a halt, as far as my reputation, I actually am respected in the Wireless industry, Me our my companies have ever Failed or been shut down and further all of them have been extremely profitable as it is going for panther and the associates, Why dont you ask some of the Reps that are here at panther, their Commissions have gone up over 32% since my arrival. And any business I am in GROWS, so do your research. As long as I am in this Industry I will Grow and further, eventually Panther will own it, Look at anything else I am involved in, I corner the market and OWN IT.

      • Chris,
        Higher commissions are good, people need money. However, in network marketing, the compensation plan is the third element of the system. The first is the leadership of the company. The second element is the product or service. When several companies offer the same service, then it becomes the crusade behind the company. And Liberty International has a huge crusade.

        • Troy,
          You are so right about this. There's alot of network marketing companies that have great compensation plans so to speak but their corporate leadership and products or services suck. Not to mention the resources made available to field reps to build a distributer and customers base are worthless. I would like to add to your comment if you don't mind. Another thing that people should consider is the longevity of the product or service you are marketing. If it isn't something people are going to keep coming back wanting more then you are chasing rainbows. Network Marketing isn't just about recruiting. If anyone wants to build a lifetime residual income then you have to have a solid customer base PERIOD. Attrition happens because you get reps who aren't really serious or committed to building a business and it's always going to happen. So for example if BM Wireless has excellent leadership at the corporate level, wireless plans that are very competitive, and have a customer only website, I mentioned this in a previous comment and they pay $5/mo. residual on customers and XZ Wireless has an OK Corporate Staff that doesn't listen to the field, same services as BM Wireless, and pay $10/mo. and they are more centered around recruiting reps and making them customers versus obtaining real customers, then I will choose BM wireless all day long. It's not definately always about the money. If a company stand behind their distributers and the distributers know it and can feel that, then they will remain loyal to that company. Alot of companies fail or don't do as well as they can because they don't position their distributers for success.
          My recent post Working At Home Issues To Be Aware Of

  15. Hey Troy, new to your site but whata surprise, Like I said, I've been with Liberty since Sept. '09, Your correct, the company was in quick and direct with the whole situation and as usual, delivered quick solutions and communication to everyone-The above story and blatant lies is rediculous, especially when you counter it with direct advertising about your own company-thank you for this site and keep us on the pulse of this industry Please tell Chris, Nothing beats FREE!

    • My friends at WOW tell me the hardest obstacle they have is that most people who want service, just don't want to 'sell' the service, and do not get it free. They say that because of that, they are only looking for opportunity seekers, and business builders only, and they are the ones who work to try to get it for free. The other obstacle is the matrix. Hey, all three are relatively new to WOW, (within 4 months) so maybe they are not the norm. I like WOW, but my phone and builder fees are paid for by the matrix in panther, most of which came from spill. So yeah! free is great, I only invested $69.00 to get started including my first months phone service. My commission check will way more than pay for that and I started Jan 29 th. How much did you guys invest to get "free" service? Hey, maybe I am not the norm, I can't promise that anyone else will have the same results as me. But this month was way below average in recruiting for me (Compared to results when I was at another company L_W), because of the time I am was putting in on papers for my MBA.

  16. Troy-I really appreciate you keeping the situation last week with T-Mobile truthful and not letting the negative hype machine from 'panther' create a feeding frenzy any more than it did-thanks for being a stand up independent and ethical voice in the networker wilderness-Thom G

  17. WOW Reps,
    What happened to all of the phones that were being offered? Just the Samsung now?
    Rumor also has it that people are getting a little restless with the waiting for the phones. No inventory? What's the story WOW reps?

  18. You can cover for WOW or choose to not to believe if you want to, but I'm not surprise that WOW didn't pay their bills. When you have a business model that generates revenue ONLY from the recruitment of new reps, soon or later you are going to crash and burn. Six months from now, we'll hear a story that everyone will say "I shoulda seen it coming" Headline…WOW Mobile shut down by TMobile for Nonpayment, Founder wanted by FBI" hahaha, mark my words…virtual company my A$$.
    On a separate note, Troy Dooly, how much kickback are you getting from Randy J? BE HONEST

  19. Troy just announced yesterday…
    Liberty International / Wow Mobile Launches its big new complex for customer service / rep support.
    The latest new phone models of samsung i7500 phones are out and the reps are stoked…
    Randy Jeffers has more BIG announcements coming…
    Troy…Randy's there communicating to the field and keeping up with the growing demand…checks are getting bigger…its a beautiful thing !

  20. what your not getting chris is the FREE PART YES I HAVE IT AND ANYONE CAN GET FREE CELL SERVICE and i have been doing this for 6 months and have free cell service no overhead and make thousands of dollars weekly

  21. Hello Troy, thank you for your help on keeping all of us inform, I usually don't write on your blog but I like your information, now the reason of this is to get your feed back and or other Leaders reading this. There is a new cell phone company callhttp://www.gozoommobile.com/ and I'd like to be able to identify the red flags.
    I notice a lot of people are joining every day, they have the same strategy like wow mobile "refer three and your service is free" which is a powerful strategy, According to them they have $39.99 Talk $49.99 Talk and text $59.99 talk text and unlimited data and %79.99 all monition with the tethering. How can do i know for how long their website has been purchase, any one know to track their Ip address?..

    • Zoom seems to be just another MLM wireless company. However here are a few concerns…
      1. If the company is truly using WOW Mobiles 10 year old business model of "buy one, sell three, yours is free" they had better have deep pockets.
      2. They are using PayPal or at least were using PayPal and PayPal will cancel their account, and hold their funds. PayPal does not allow MLM companies period.
      3. There is a current price war inside the wireless industry at all levels. If any of these companies are tied to long term contracts they will not make it.

  22. Or how can investigate this new company in order to make the correct decision, the person who wants to recruit me does not have replicated it website yet and their method of pay is paypal, on the main page are some phones but with out a price?! and there is no compensation plans video on the main page. Let me mention that i don't belong to any of the cell phones mlm, but I had a bad experience before, and I don't want to make the same mistake and get hurts pecially the people i would like to help. http://www.gozoommobile.com/
    Thank you all in advance.

    • I would not join any 100% wireless MLM company. I would look for a company that is a hub company with other products or services to offer. Those other services can all be in telecommunication, but I would be very cautious of just wireless.

    • Armando,
      I have not seen anything wrong with Zoom. There are some concerns, however the concerns have nothing to do with them being legit. Here are the questions you should think about.
      1. How deep are the pockets of the company? This is important because, they are trying to use the same business model WOW Mobile uses – Buy one, sell three yours is free. If they are truly going to stop charging one out of four distributors their autoship fee, then they had better fully understand their compensation plan and have deep pockets.
      2. With a major price war going on in the wireless industry, if the company is locked into high contracts they will not be able to provide a reasonably priced service.
      3. I do not see how a binary compensation plan will sustain itself in a company just offering wireless services.
      They have some solid marketing, but only time will tell.

    • Hey Armando,
      No offense meant but didn't you mean: http://www.gozoommobile.com ~ (you spelled zoom as zomm) ~ actually from all first appearances like most any new Marketing and Direct Sales company on the scene, everything does appear to be legitimate. Our concern is that this is a site that includes NO Terms & Policies or Policies and Procedures at the bottom of each page like most companies do. In this case one can't read and understand those due to unavailability and also we noticed there are no FAQ's that would answer typical questions in general that any one person considering would want to have at their fingertips to read and understand as well.
      Aside from that everything else looks to be in order. We do believe they need a Corporate Founders, Owners and Leadership Page for those in the company including their legal counsel as well. There are a few pages missing but as they move forward hopefully someone in the company will advise proper promotion and advertising to the appropriate people so these pages will all be in order for the person fisrt being introduced to the company and business. It also wouldn't hurt for them to have a video presentation available as well as the comp plan breakdown in pdf or short form on the actual site.
      Just our thoughts – you will formulate your own as you become more experienced and knowledgeable in this industry and we wish you all the best of great things to come, a
      wonderful life and God's blessings for you and your family!
      Sincerely & with Heart,
      Viktoria & Gary Affron
      Executive Team Concepts
      386-438-8056

  23. I had someone contact me and find that I was in WOW and is trying to get me to look at ZOOM Troy. I found the same THING you did and the biggest red flag (well multiple actually). I feel bad for all the funds going to PayPal.. Because Paypal will hold those funds indefinitely due to the fact they are ALREADY going against legal agreements by using Paypal for MLM reasons.
    The parent company which is a record company has a website that has not had any updates since 2007, if you ask me that's a bit scary. Look up IF the company is registered to do business and you will be surprised on what you find about that. Do your research people… I think this company is honestly a sinking ship before even sailing away from port. Best of luck to those that invest their hard earned dollars in it.

  24. Troy,
    Word on the street has it that T-Mobile found out that WOW was illegally using their name and logo and has now requested that Liberty remove all T-Mobile association. Any news on this? Is it for real?

    • Curious,
      This is a great question. From taking with the corporate leadership at Liberty I was informed that T-Mobile put a temporary hold on new activations until the company policed the field force and had them clean up the websites promoting T-Mobile instead of WOW Mobile. Seems some over zealous reps have put up ad copy stating T-Mobile was doing 3 and free. I also was told some reps were going into local T-Mobile stores and trying to sponsor the sale personal.
      Randy Jeffers made it clear the attorneys at T-Mobile had made it clear once these sites were cleaned up and the field was fully informed of what is legal and what is not, that activations will be back to normal.
      Jeffers also informed me, he hs close to finalizing deals with other carriers.
      I have a feeling, this type of situation will not be isolated to just WOW. Based on what we are seeing in several companies, over zealous reps and the fact the big four are fighting for market penetration this may happen to some other companies also.

      • Troy,
        I am a rep down in TX for WOW. We are currently awaiting an update on our new devices. We are suppose to have SIM cards branded "WOW" as of now because of some very dumb marketing moves that some of the reps made nationwide. Some tried to take the easy way out and market Free T-Mobile Service on sites such as Craigslist, Ebay, etc… Word is some reps and organizations within the company are having suits filed against them.
        The new WoW braded SIMs should allows us to do one BIG thing we COULDN'T do before, and that's the ability to stock the Sim's. What is your feedback on that Troy? Do you think this will be possible now that the carriers name is not ON the actual device. The flood gates would absolutely open up if we could stock these ourselves as reps and hand them over to our new reps when they sign up. EVERYONE would love to see this happen.
        Your thoughts,
        Nick

        • Nick,
          Things are crazy for all the companies in this niche. Having talked with Randy last week, he and his team seem to have a handle on things, and are working around the clock to make sure reps in the field fully understand what is acceptable and what is not from this point forward.
          In retrospect, I think part of the frustrations from T-Mobile came from other competitors as well as over zealous reps.
          There is one thing ALL MLM Wireless companies need to realize… At the end of the day, T-Mobile, Sprint, AT&T and Verizon can change the rules at the drop of a dime. Where will reps be if the tier 1 carriers decide to stop allowing MLM companies to market their cell services?

          • The solution is to market YOUR own service and not market another carrier's service. Buying network time and selling your own product is not selling another company's product. What WOW is doing is simply buying a T-Mobile product directly from T-Mobile and selling it at a higher price to make a profit. There are other MLM companies out there that don't have that type of insecure relationship.

          • Curious,
            You hit it on the head! However, the wireless backbone is controlled by 4 players only! If those four carriers decide to put the hammer down, and tell all the tier 2 and below carriers NOT to enter into any contracts with MLM Wireless companies, then distributors are up a creek.
            And… If the big 4 continue to lower the retail price of wireless, even companies like Lightyear will have major issues because of their long term wholesale contracts.

          • That's why it's important to be able to deal DIRECTLY with the Tier 1 company and not be a reseller of a reseller of an MVNO! If you deal directly with the actual provider of the service then you can always work out new wholesale contracts! You'll see that happen with LY and Verizon very soon!

          • Troy, last post on this subject was April 20. Today is May 12. Is WOW back on line activating customers? Why not? Does it take 22 days to take some websites down and inform the rep base what they can and cannot do? Why the hold up? Why hasn't anyone produced a press release of TMobile and Liberty's business together? Do you think it's possible that there was some type of shaky deal going on, like maybe Liberty has been purchasing lines under 1 umbrella account from TMobile, then selling that line to a rep at a higher price? It would make sense, sense I have seen some things floating out there that people trying to port back their number from WOW to other companies can't be done, as the lines are under Randy's/Liberty's name, not the person using the phone and paying WOW.
            Not accusing anyone of anything. I personally would like to see this work, for lots of reasons, mostly for the same reasons you do. I would just love to see a report on this, since you have access to the powers that be.

  25. News flash to yall ! The following companies that have gone MLM with Wireless "Zoom Mobile" WoW-Mobile" "Panther Mobile" Who the #$@% thought that was a good name for a cellular service provider, Anyway "Light year wireless" And a new one starting this week "DNA Cellular" Thats "5" Total, and we aint even getting started with this "Wireless Revolution" Just as I have "NAJCS" Thats stands for "Not another Juice company syndrome" I am already in the early development stages of "NACPCS" That stands for "Not another cell phone company syndrome" And WoW-Mobile, doesn't offer squat if you want a new phone, they have ONE Phone !!! And It's $400.00, and they always state that they are in the "Service Business" Not the "Phone Biz" Leaving most everyone to fend for themselves when it comes to phones, remember we are Americans, and want the coolest, and latest junk for as little as we can get it ! None of these companies have anything to offer the compulsive tech geek/ buyer, In other words it's a Royal pain in the @$$ to be a Rep of any of these companies. But all of them seem to have a Loyal, enthusiastic, and not hesitant to slander distributor base, which tells me that it is headed in the same direction as most other MLM, And has already shed it's unique quality in being a great concept to go "MLM with Cellular"

  26. Hi, my mom a couple of months ago purchased a wow mobile cellphone packet,she paid 700.00,but she never got the cellphone.And to top it off, she found out that liberty international is taking her money from her account,without her having any service.My mom just found out that liberty freedom is pairing up with sprint is this true?

  27. This WOW Mobile is nothing but a Ponzi scheme………If any of you WOWMobile people want to refute me, then write back………The Pensacola WOW people shut off all services due to,what they say, people reprogramming their phones to call internationally. WHAT??? People, and we're talking supposedly nudreds of customers, all at once have the ability to reprgram their phones to call internationally? Phones aren't made that way….Supposedly, because of this reprogramming, WOW was hit with a $500,000 bill that they weren't expecting from T-Mobile, and T-Mobile dropped them. What a bunch of crap. These reps here took money from the people here, and then made up a bogus excuse to keep people still for awhile, and ran with the money. This is a pyramid/ponzi scheme just like what Bernie Madoff did. Refute me if I'm wrong WOW people.

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