Breaking MLM Wi-fi Information:
International Verge Investigators Uncover Chris Greco MLM Wi-fi Activation King Useless!
After 9-months investigating Chris Greco, the self-proclaimed Saddam Husein of MLM Wi-fi, International Verge legal professional, Brian Hardy notified me late final night time, that International Verge investigators discovered Chris Greco died on August 29, 1989.
The Full International Verge Report will be discovered on the backside of this text.
for sure this has been one of many craziest weeks within the MLM Wi-fi Area of interest. Here’s a small recap:
1. Chris Greco, Debbie Holton and Steve Christman break from Kevin Sipes and TechSoft on account of unpaid commissions, purported fraud and questionable enterprise ways which embody displaying the next purported proprietary Panther Cellular documentation and different corporations akin to GiConnect.
2. Micah Collins of HBizNews.com reports Bankruptcy Trustee reopens Liberty International no-Asset Bankruptcy – Click To Read!.
3. Brian Hardy, International Verge’s Legal professional pronounces ultimate Settlement Settlement with Panther Cellular, Inc. And notifies MLM Assist Desk that the person who calls himself Chris Greco, the proprietor of Activation King Wi-fi isn’t the actual Chris Greco. That the actual Chris Greco died at age 14 in California.
In case you have info pertaining to the actual id of the person who calls himself “Chris Greco” please contact:
Hmmm, Very intresting.. I am sure the Zoom team will help out in anyway we can..
Kudo's to the leadership at Global Verge for persuing this con artist.
George
Great post Troy, Controversy seems to always be in the wireless niche. This is the reason that I would not touch one of these companies with a ten foot pole. It kind of reminds me of all the super juice wars that are out there. Its really hard for me to comprehend why anyone would want to be in either arena for a home based business! Keep up the good work and I know you will keep us updated on this matter.
Troy I sure hope you have documentation on the claim that the dead guy is really linked to that social. I do not see that here and you should clarify that. As to keep you from any problems.
To be honest Troy the whole Chris Greco thing is played out, No one cares anymore.
I am upset at my own company in Panther for basically blaming everyone else for the issues.
I stuck by the company and I have yet to be paid my commissions from april.
I did some research on a few sites intellius is one of them.
I found 49 dead Chris Greco's I even found 5 that lived in Boston and Myrtle Beach.
Troy you have integrity don't get the reputation of the National Inquirer.
Hey did you hear Opera was on a Gay weekend, And at the same time President Obama is from Kenya and was not born here.
Laugh but that is where this is going.
Can't believe I saw this post. My hat is off the those brave leaders from techsoft who left the thieving and sorry Kevin Sipe. I think if Greco is a bad guy, He is worse.
Please post my info so I can find out about the new company those leaders are doing
panthermobilebiz@gmail.com
Thanks.
Played Out,
Your opening statement is a little perplexing. Did you not see the Court documents supplied by Brian Hardy the Global Verge attorney of record?
You may feel the GV and Chris Greco issue is played out. However there are distributors who will disagree. There are many distributors who have been effected by this continuing situation in just about every MLM Wireless Company. And until all of this is finally settled in a Court of Law we will continued to report as documents come in, from all sides.
I can understand your frustration with Panther. However, which Panther? See part of the continuing issues with Panter was the fact Kevin Sipes did continue hos track record of locking his partner out of what was really happening at the company.
Although, Harry and I have had some heated discussions, Harry has always been straightforward, and told me what was happening, not what he thought I wanted to hear. I also believe that alsthough not all distributors at Panther have been paid, or are happy, that in the long run Harry will make everything right.
I am glad you found all of these Chris Greco's. However, what you did not have, that the investigators did have, is the SSN number used on the bank documents. When you have the SSN used on the bank document, which was signed by the Chris Greco in questions, according to the Court Filing, then you narrow down your search to just one person. The 14 year old boy who passed away.
Thank you for the kind words. The National Inquirer would not have supplied the 42 paged of Court documents, as I have in this report. Nor, as the National Inquirer does, did I claim to know the full story. I have done what we have done from the begining… I posted the evidence as supplied through the Courts.
Now, it is up to Sipes & Greco to prove through a court of law that everything Global Verge & Panther claims is false.
I have talked with Chris today and made it clear I am willing to do an interview with him, and will post any court files his attorney supplies me. Kevin Sipes has always refused to file any court claims, or do an interview. It he changes his mind we will post those as well.
Living An EPic Adventure,
Troy
Played Out,
If your point is that you haven't been paid from the OLD Panther Mobile – the NEW Panther Mobile has long had an excellent support team in place and you can visit YOUR OWN site and click on support regarding your commission issues.
We have reached out to panthermobilebiz@gmail.com . Who is this mystery post.? You stated you have April commissions but if they go un claimed by October 31st I have instructed my staff to donate $100.00 to the "Catalyst" fund on Novemebr 1st.
The Tension Is Good Troy!
Wow…
This is truly SHOCKING!!! My hat is off to the attorney who did some true research! This unfortunately is going to ripple the mlm industry.
Nick Schycker
Zoom Founder – TX State Manager
Hi Troy,
Well this page is always busy! I hope you follow up on all of this! I am actually taking a leading role in Techsoftmobile and making sure the people are being taken care of. Now we are not denying there had been some issues while Kevin’s son was ill. As a parent with a child who has had serious illness and a business owner who has been underminded before I can understand what happened at Techsoft. However there are a great group of people who have decided to start their own adventure with a well known leader and we wish them the best! Kevin, Bonnie, and I are moving on as a strong and stable productive team! We are not moving everyone around we are in it for the long haul. Kevin and I have set up customer service staff and we have a direct ship agreement with a new company for faster shipping and even an activation team in addition to the staff that has worked so well to this point. We look forward to seeing you with us at the top!
As a separate note
I would like to say that I am disgusted by the slander going around about my good friend Chris and several others involved and would hope people would take the higher road. The drama is only getting in the way of everyone having a happy and profitable life. If you are going to accuse or bash have enough guts to use your real name!
Candice,
Thank you for stopping by. I am glad you are taking a leading role at TechSoft. This will help to put at ease some of the concerns from distributors over the last few days on commission issues. Please keep us posted on what is happening, and know my phone is always open.
You have always been straightforward in your communications with both the field and myself.
I did talk with Chris today, and he assured me his attorney would be filing a counter suit, and he would is willing to do a live interview in the next few days (although I did tell him to check with his attorney first.)
Again, thank you for giving us this update.
Troy, the only live interview will be him interviewing himself on his MLM Wireless News website. I guess he could get Amanda, Eric Collins, Marcus Greco or maybe even Willie the excel guy to do it.
Chris Greco AKA ??????????????????
ROFLOL… Well, I guess if that is the case, we'll link to their site and help lift them in the rankings since that seems to be more important to some folks than just delivering quality content to the distributors.
Great job Troy, well done!
Will the real person using the stolen identity of CHRIS GRECO please identify yourself ? I mean when you found out WARREN ANTHONY was none other than " MR. P " you were screaming from the mountain tops. You ought to be ashamed of yourself using a dead kids name and social security number to open up a bank account.
GAME OVER
WARREN ANTHONY
Troy we will follow up
Just for clarification. The person Global Verge claims was born in the United States, and provided no information that links the two, Just speak, Where I come from that is slander and we will take any and all legal actions possible.
Again just for Clarification had they done research they would have found I was born in IRELAND, hence the Irish dual citizenship and Greco Holding Group being over there.
We will be filing a slander suit against GV and their attorney who is making the false claims.
Then we will see.
Chris Greco
Thanks for reaching out today Troy as well.
Lastly anyone can come to the new office in Columbia and see me any day of the week.
Amazing, really just amazing. What happened at TechSoft is no surprise. I predicted that in July. Enough said, no "I told you so's". But it does vindicate me for my belief and faith in the founders of GlobalPros, who do pay their commissions and do pay them on time. Way to go guys. I am so glad I stuck around.
As for Chris not being Chris, or using the id of a dead Chris Greco to keep him at arms length. Time will tell on that one. I am not surprised, amazed yes, but not surprised.
I wonder if for an encore, he will shave his head bald, grow a cheesy mustache (hey next month is Movember), and call himself Troy. After the supposed brain cancer kills him that is.
On another note, and I have not confirmed this. I heard a second hand report Terrestar, that company that was going to provide the man rumored to be Chris Greco the satellite phones went into bankruptcy protection today. Can anyone confirm that?
Hey Mr. Douglas,
You're just jealous because you can grow such a unique stash as mine!
Hey Troy, for whatever it is worth, my wife Debbie and I prefer that I grow my hair on my head and not my lip.
I am going to have to agree with Victoria on this one. With everything uncovered by Marquis and Aurbach, why would any credible business person to believe in or follow him?
The writing has been on this wall for some time now. Maybe it is time for some people to start reading it. Your credibility and reputation is at stake.
Paul, does this mean you won't have to do snow angels butt naked in the middle of winter ?
No Ricky, Chris saved the whole world from such a fate, when he failed to deliver on his promise in July. Might be the one truly great thing he has ever done for this community.
Troy,
I am seriously not surprised at all by any of this, it is amazing that this hasn't come out before now, I am glad that it has and I sincerely hope that this information saves a lot of people from wasting their time with this nonsense.
This really is now a case according to the documentation provided of blatant bank and wire fraud and should also be turned over to the FED's for investigation at this point; providing false information on an application for a checking account, including apparently his name and SSN should land him in jail… Unless we are all to believe that somehow someone else with his name and SSN just happened to die in 1989… WOW! What a coincidence! ;o)
Anyway, I needed a good laugh today and this provided that for me!
Thanks!
Rick Weston
Quietly building my empire, one rep at a time…
Chris Greco Dead – ashame on you………………………
John Go P,
Sadly, your comment doesn't really add any value. It is hard to tell exactly what statement you are making. Can you be a little clearer?
John Go P.,
How could you in good conscious and without deep thought and / or reservation make such a comment …
"Chris Greco Dead – ashame on you ………" to Troy and readers?
Did you not watch and listen to Troy's video post and …take the time to read and understand all the appropriate and proven legal evidentiary documentation? Do you not realize or understand how much trouble your buddy "Chris Greco" is presently in?
John, even you know the difference between wrong and right. You and many others in marketing by now must be somewhat familiar on civil and federal laws regarding business operation. How in anyone's right mind could a good business person not know that one can't simply use anyone else's assigned social security number even for personal reasons and …if found out – – how would anyone given even a close friendship be able to trust or justify that person doing such and anyone else who may know they're doing such and not telling while being connected as friends?
It's totally understandable that sometimes these things do happen but, what's not understandable at all is someone not knowing, then finding out and still believing their friend has good intentions.
It's long been said that the road to hell is paved with good intentions.
In addition, it's also been said that you are a mirror of those you hang out with in life. If that's so, we're all a mirror of someone …right or wrong, we have a moral and social obligation to find out and then make appropirate adjustments and changes if we're to protect our own integrity and credibility wether personal or business.
Sorry, but opinion rules and there are far more people who have been harmed by this persons intentions and empty promises than have been helped in the end. This supposed "Christopher Greco" will have to prove he is who he says he is and that may take three steps back and two steps forward. Whatever it is, IS and only this person claiming to be one "Christopher Greco" can make those decisions and either do the right thing and suffer the consequences according to his conscious or do the wrong thing again and run and hide. The ball is squarely in his court now!
FINALLY _-_THANK YOU TROY & GLOBAL VERGE!
NOT Shocking at all but highly disturbing considering HIS PAST behaviors and that ANYONE of any business credibility and reputation STILL supports this character CHRIS GRECO and his actions.
FINALLY the LINE IS DRAWN _-_MAYBE PEOPLE WILL LISTEN NOW and PAY ATTENTION!
IT DOES appear there is STILL a following of this person with NO consideration that he MAY NOT BE who he says he is and _-_WITH ALL his past behavior THIS REPORT points to SERIOUS and QUESTIONABLE character ON the infamous part of one said MAY BE or MAY NOT BE _-_CHRIS GRECO!
THIS CHRIS GRECO once said he was BORN in BOSTON __NOW he's saying he was BORN in IRELAND? WHICH PLACE NEXT? EVERY time there's a question CHRIS GRECO finds a way to AVOID it NOT Shocking at all but highly disturbing considering PAST behaviors and that ANYONE of any business credibility still supports this character CHRIS GRECO and his actions. WHERE IS the line drawn on this guy? THERE IS SOMETHING WRONG and __MOST Distributors know OR should KNOW it.
NOW YOU HAVE YOUR "GAME OVER" CHRIS!
HOW ARE YOU GOING TO EXPLAIN THAT ONE?
SORRY CHRIS _-_THE FACTS CAN NOT BE CHANGED so easily!
READ INTO THIS ONE FOLKS _-_
FYI: _-_the "REAL" CHRIS GRECO JUST STEPPED UP!
After all THE CHRIS GRECO EVERYONE KNOWs almost NEVER FAILS to HAVE his voice HEARD or his PRESENCE NOTED!
WHAT HAPPENED to ALL his stores in FLORIDA? JUST ASK HIM _-_he claims he STILL HAS A STORE IN __ORANGE CITY, FLORIDA ! OH AND _-_there's NO problems over @ TsM – EVERYTHINGS OKAY _-_RIGHT CHRIS?
WAS IT YOU CHRIS GRECO OR _-_YOUR SIDE KICK AMANDA THAT SAID:
" I will also be attending a WOW Mobile event in Tampa on November 2nd, And or
a PHP Event in North Carolina in December."
JUST IN TIME FOR THANKSGIVING _-_BAKED OR FRIED?
SORRYeee TROY & READERS!
It seems I had a few things in my comment TWICE, ROFLOL! Just goes to show, THIS NEWS has been TOO LONG In coming and IS TOO IMPORTANT to LET SLIDE! Guess I got a little OVER EXHUBERANT and put some comments in twice but _-_DID NOT MEAN TO!
JUST IGNORE that little mistake as we're SURE everyone makes TYPO's and even forgets to read before hitting that submit button and _-_ I NOW HAVE one of those TOUCHY "Touch Screens" too and every time a little critter lands on it (Florida is buggy & muggy), it changes my screen and can be VERY distracting thus the TWICE OVER comments, ha!
Thanks Troy!
I just noticed you removed my TWICE OVER comments _-_
Thanks for helping save my embarrasment, you're the greatest!
Viktoria & Gary Affron
Executive Team Concepts
PH: 386-438-8056
victoria you surely are self rightous. The real chris greco is right here. Oh and you know this victoria remember you use to sell me adds in the coupon book. But back then you used the name terry taylor.
Remeber that? Victoria or terry you will find yourself in the same situation as countless others monday.
so yuk it up now but cry later.
Lastly victoria I grew up in boston mass I wasnt born there but u will find this out on monday
Troy was right all the little companies will have to merge, monday will be a watershed event
Really a Very Sad Attempt Mr. Greco!
Quite the miserable and failed, desperate attempt at doing harm yet again and a solid identifier of your given and masquerading personality with a 5th grade cowardly comment that doesn't even deserve a response. But for the sake of all the good people reading and commenting on this site and the real professionals among us, we would not be posting a comment at all. It's just too bad that anyone here has to endure your presence since you posted a few months back that you weren't going to post here on a frequent basis if at all.
In another of your misguided delusionary moments of egotistical, pompous, ignorant attempts at shaming another individuals integrity and credibility which you are well known for doing to any of your perceived enemies at arms __you have again failed considerably and as usual, your comments are laughable.
Considering the trouble you're in __ shouldn't you be tending to your current personal and business issues? it would seem if you have any consideration or recognition of the trouble you're presently in __you would take some time to tend to those issues instead of pointing the finger of blame in every other direction and every other person but your own.
For someone whose so sure about and sitting in judgement of other peoples self righteousness and integrity __your obvious ignorance is woefully evident in justifying your own actions and your own lack of attention to credibility of any kind foregoing your own which currently is all but laughable and about to be in the dump (if not already), waiting to be incinerated.
Sadly you feel no responsibility or accountability or simply just don't care as you've voiced openly on so many occasions. Unfortunately for you __there will be no justifying or lame excuses acceptable in a court of law wether or not you are present as you did whatever you did and you are who you are once your true identification is discovered and confirmed. It won't matter if you truly are someone by the name of Christopher Greco or not __guilty is guilty and will be so judged and sentenced appropriately.
So go ahead and spout your hatred and underhanded excuses for your bad behavior all you want to. It matters less to me, my husband or our business associations as most everyone we are connected to already knows about my past both personal and business experiences including the coupon book advertising business I was in fact very proud to be associated with as Marketing Director.
For any who have not heard us speak about that particular business or who have not heard the details of how it was began and successfully became the most well known, regarded and highly sought after coupon book, please feel welcome to contact me directly at the phone number below and I will be more than happy to assist you in how I grew that coupon book to it's unmatched success in a particular Florida area near where I resided at that time.
As stated prior __I personally have nothing to hide and everyone who has known me throughout my life span previously and presently would be more than happy to educate you on the fact that I have always been honest, ethical and an open book in regards to sharing the details of my life experiences both personal and business when appropriate. In addition, I and my husband Gary have always maintained a strict level of confidentiality with any nature of sensitive and confidential information wether personal or business related.
I'm totally and confidently not ashamed in any way to let people know right here and now that yes __I used a former nickname from Junior High School in my former business from years ago and __it was simply a nickname and nothing more and held no illegal consequences. Most everyone has a nickname or a shortened version of their given proper name. I'm not ashamed to have used a nickname at all nor would I be presently.
In Junior High School, I was a great fan of Elizabeth Taylor as her birthday is two days after mine in February and I had seen a lot of her movies from when she herself was but a child. I was teased a lot in school because I wanted to be just like Elizabeth Taylor, ha! Thus I took on the nickname "Terry Taylor" instead of "Liz" or some other nickname. There is no shame in that at all and should settle once and for all this ridiculous claim of Mr. Greco's as most all of his are anyway and known widely throughout this industry.
Mr. Greco __as for you and your illicit and blinded sense of personal responsibility (or your total lack of it) and deceitful excuses and in case you haven't noticed or paid attention to the comments coming back to you on this site __it's obvious to the masses that there's not been the slightest change in your past or present behavior which you so diligently continue to showboat and use in committing wrongful and unjustifiable harm to others.
Most normal type individuals in your current situation would rather be attentive to and get busy taking care of these more important issues and problems you're having presently __liken to most recent events, discoveries and findings that have in fact most certainly damaged your credibility (if any left at this point) and will most likely and unequivocally label and identify you for all to see up close and personal.
Your attitude of "just letting things go" , denying and ignoring legal issues regarding Global Verge and all your underhanded, pompous threats' and accusations of Ted Robins background plus your underhanded, misguided, pompous, delusionary, manipulative behaviors have already shown you to be the person you are. Our comments regarding you as a person are not here to destroy you Mr. Greco __you have and are still doing a good enough job of that all on your own.
Viktoria & Gary Affron
Executive Team Concepts
386-438-8056
Ok terry. I see you avoided the question. So are you stating you never sold chris greco coupon book ads in deltona? How convienient. Being me and you talked about that very subject for over an hour.. on a recorded call. We'll see what the court makes of all this as my attorney files a response and we. File a lawsuit in the proper jurisdiction. Here in south carolina.
Further we have also filed another criminal complaint against mark petschel in. South. Caroina being missouri ag is dragging feet for forgery.
Victoria. Terry. Or whoever you are. If you think I'm the bad guy you haven't seen nothing yet.
Looking forward to seeing yours and garys name in lights Monday.
Looking forard to the new websites dedicated to providing truth on panther and globalverge. Some may call it slander I call it payback. See its kind of like when the japanesse bombed pearl harbor, or better yet when the brittish killed michael collins mom. He formed the IRA and crushed them wherever they popped up their little heads.
Game on. I have nothing to lose and eveything to gain let the sites begin.
GO BACK and READ AGAIN X-MAN!
You really have an EGO don't you …You really think you're SCARYeeeee??? Of course you and your side kick KEVIN SIPE RECORD calls huh? You're messing with the wrong source here. OKAY – Sue me – you can have my $700 Box of Java Fit Coffee! Oops! I forgot, i sent some some of that out to OUR friends so there may be a little less than $700 worth left and what a shame because it's really GREAT GOURMET coffee!
So go ahead X-MAN and have fun while it last! You can WRITE a BOOK while you're sitting in South Carolina's MEN's Prison and maybe make a few REALLY SWEET friends. THEN you can created PRISON ALL WIRELESS!
Victoria I will enjoy that coffee and youcanbe the example..
But vicky let's air it out ? How about I play it on the interview so kate and harry know how you really feel?
I think ill do just that.
You play with the bull you get the horns.
Chris X-Man Greco …
Re: your last comment below – October 25, 2010 at 12:25 pm:
Would advise you lay low like your buddy Kevin Sipe who at least has the good sense to keep his mouth shut. Bank fraud and identity theft (if true as the reported filings and records do show it is) carries a heavy restitutional fine, jail time and confiscation of any personal assets. Would be more careful as to who you threaten due to the fact, that could become an added value to the FBI in their investigation of any criminal and federal indictment of you and your activites.
I have been saying for the last 10 mos that this guy was nothing but poison. He is a disgrace to our industry. All you GMF's Greco Maget Followers, I hope you are satisfied for believing and trusting in this complete idiot. It's awesome how everything comes full circle. The first company Greco screwed over is the very same one that has come back and bit him in his fat ass. He is a total fraud. I always said just wait and see. Your getting a good closeup front and center. It's funny how all the GMF's have disappeared.
Real Source
This story would make a great movie ! unbelievable
Hey Rob …
Would have to agree with you there – would make for an entetaining movie say maybe 3 hours long at minimum? Maybe someone of some production company will latch on to this one and develop, write, direct and produce a movie just like they did for the recently released movie "Social Network"!
Will have to wait and see but wow what a thought!
Viktoria & Gary Affron
Executive Team Concepts
386-438-8056
Its been done. I believe it was called, "The Three Stooges take over mlm wireless".
Hey Paul …ROFLOL!
Tried to call you earlier – YES you're right “The Three Stooges take over mlm wireless”! Wonder who they'll get to play the part of this one said "Christopher Greco" ???
Maybe one of the "Bridge's" boys and too bad Chris Farley isn't still around, huh!
Take Care Our Friend!
Viktoria & Gary Affron
Executive Team Concepts
386-438-8056
This could keep the national lampoon series going for years. Randy Quaid and his nice wife would be a perfect fit and it looks like they need the work. Randy would only have to dye his beard.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/brit…
LOVE IT – PERFECT CHOICE to play the INFAMOUS Christopher Greco or Whoever Ge is!
documents have officially been efiled it now is game over.
Announcememt monday
Let me guess Chris, you mailed the documents the same way you mailed the phones and sim cards to me right? As we haven't seen anything yet. At this point you might as wellleave this industry and go back to selling porn. You are done here and lost all credibility.
Troy why should we help GV ?!
NO WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GV spent company money at a Las Vegas strip club then sued for over 100K to get it back…
GV Never delivered a Zer01 Phone…NOTHING!
GV Screwed me last year BIG TIME !!!!!!!!!!!!
GV Screwed over all employees that helped them…Steve, Valarie and more
GV deserve NOTHING! AGAIN NOTHING !
GRECO YOU HAVE ME LAUGHING SO HARD !!!!
TEDDY FROM YOUR STANDPOINT KISS MY ***
Troy just because you are getting info/press from them does not mean they are "good guys"
Help GV No Way,
Great question, and it deserves an answer. I might even have a couple of additional questions.
1. Where is the documentation that GV spent money at a strip club? Is there pictures, receipts or what? If you are talking about the money given to a Zer01 Investor, that was laid out in Court and GV won. By the way it was not a strip club. She along with Ben P were connected to an escort service, not a strip club.
2. You are correct GV did not deliver on the Zer01 phone. And as you stated it was a Zer01 phone. When Zer01 could not deliver, then GV sued them and won. Give it some thought, why didn'y Zer01 and their parent company fight this lawsuit? GV Won, and wouldn't be wonderful if down the road the technology ends up in the hands ot GV Distributors?
3. How did GV Screw you? That statement would not hold in a court of law, so let's not use it here. Be specific, and share exactly what you lost and how GV alone, (not your upline also) caused this personal situation!
4. As for the potential screwing of Steve, Valarie etc., how did GV screw them? If anything that was dog eat dog! Ted has admitted there were mistakes on their part. I have yet to see Steve or anyone else admit they were part of the problems. No, that doesn't work… If anyone was screwed in a legal sense, then why haven't they sued GV?
5. Tell me where I have stated anyone was the Good Guys? When it comes to the wireless niche, I am in my fox hole, waiting for the bomb to blow. But, I can tell you this, when anyone is willing to sit down and talk with me, sharing with me what they are presenting to the courts, then I will report on it.
For months everyone thought it was great that we nailed GV for all the craziness. Yet, when they finally come out and start defending themselves, and winning, people want to grip and complain. I find it interesting that some folks only want to see one side. After all the documentation, audios and videos I have reviewed, it is easy no one is above reproach, and everyone has made mistakes. However, some folks have gone beyond the normal mistakes and committed travesties against tens of thousands of distributors. And little by little the courts are finding these folks liable at least civilly and I believe in the near future there may be some criminal charges filed at either a state of federal level.
But, if I were in your shoes, I am sure I would feel just as you do!
Help GV No Way
Dude, Why come on here and make "idiot" statements like that. Not one of your statements are true, except maybe Greco making you laugh, and that is if you meant that he was a joke. Check the court records you will see who got screwed, but now seems to be getting some vindication, and maybe a little "revenge" "payback" " I told you so"
Real Source
Hey Real Source …
We'd have to agree __against all the turmoil and trials Global Verge has experienced in their dealings with some other unstrustworthy, dishonest, manipulative and unethical parties __it does appear they're finally defending themselves and their company and current distributors who have hung tough with them, and that appears honorable depending on their final motivation for doing such. Our only personal advice would be: try not to be so harsh in addressing the others who may not be as informed as yourself. Sometimes they're not fully aware and especially when their expecations are dashed due to impatience and expectations of overnight success, experienced or not. It's truly difficult to gage certain type personalities – some are really good at convincing other people while others practice at it all the time thinking they're good when in actuallity they do need remedial training of sorts.
To what extent others have left, disparaged and / or insulted with non-formidable accusations on the business side and please note that we haven't mentioned __lack of products or services being provided on time or ever as many have complained about. it would appear that Global Verge is at least attempting to protect their company, corporate and distributors currently in existence. For that we can appreciate and regard their actions as remarkable. That's not to say they ever did anything perfectly and they did at least admit they've made mistakes. Only to reiterate they have at least had time and did in fact look into and investigate many of the issues regarding the activities and concerns this past year since at least June 2009 to present.
The fact that within those groups of people and / or individual teams that left them and were possibly coerced by outside forces __there are those who appear to have intentionally conspired to leave for whatever reasons, while others seemingly followed the advice and enticement of one said "Christopher Greco" and possibly even one "Kevin Sipe" who most by now know had been involved in unsavory actions prior while involved in the then named "eVerge" several years back.
Make no mistake as we were not involved until early June 2009 and up and until became aprised of any of the eVerge issues by research of our own and statements made by Kevin Sipe to his involvement, we had no such involvement or even knowledge of eVerge or Global Verge's existence in the industry since our primary focuse before such was solely in the health and wellness industsry.
As far as others making rudementary statements to the contray and throwing insults and misinformed accustations __well that's just something people do that haven't had the experience or knowledge imparted by enough years in the Marketing & Direct Sales industry or who possibly didn't have the benefit of good sponsors who knew the difference between what was thought to be going on versus what was actually occurring and didn't know how to explain it all or find ways to understand and stick or remove themselves in an intelligent way.
It's not necessarily a total insult to you or to Global Verge but only the ignorance of the few uninformed and inexperienced in business. Chalk it all up to mismanagement of public relations and lack of communication with a large corporation. After all it happens all the time in corporate America and it's possible and most probable it's happened previously in the Network Marketing and Direct Sales industry as well.
Hang Strong and Tough Real Source __You Have a Future with any Company of Your Choice Moving Forward and Onward!
Viktoria & Gary Affron
Executive Team Concepts
386-438-8056
Victoria you didnt know about Global Verge, Come on, Your kidding right.. This is the same Victoria Affron that Kevin has on tape talking about how we can use the bad press on GV to better Panther's position?
What is so funny is all the fake people who people think are good and are trying to help are getting exposed for who they are. LOL..
Come on, did you really think I was taking this lying down.. I am the most calculating person you will ever know, Every move is made for a reason. Its called strategy.
I wonder what Petschel, Robbins and Global Verge will say when we enforce our foreign DEFAULT JUDGEMENT from Greco Holding Group Against Buzzirk, GV, And others…
I told you so… I told you so… We will be filing to seize GV assets to the Judgement from the Irish Court, To which Global Verge Never responded and the Judgement is completely enforceable here in the US…. Game set match…. CHECK MATE
Christopher Greco YOU Are TOO Funny!
Better check your USA Laws. Since your company Greco Holdings Group, Inc., that is NON existent anywhere to be found online and what was that again you said __"it's Irish Federal"? ___yeah right!!!!
Your so called company in Ireland DOES NOT have ANY jurisdiction over USA legal issues and visa versa!
Why don't you go RUN & HIDE LITTLE BOY because you're going to need an awfully big cave out west somewhere to hide from ALL YOU HAVE COMING!
I told you so! Just got off the call we saw the documents via DIM DIM Webinar Greco fights back…
LETSSSSSSSSSSSS GEEETTTTTTTTTTTTT READDDDDDDDDDDDDDDYYYYY TO
RRUUUUUMMMMBBBBLLEEEEEE.
In this corner weighing 400lbs the big white gorilla Chris the dead man Greco………
Wireless Dealers United Inc., Unlabeled Wireless Inc. and Doe Plantiffs 1-5
In the next corner, smelling dead and screwing people daily we have Defendants
Global Verge
Mark Petschel
Ruth Mayne
All Wireless Services
Janice Pettit
Raymond Knight
Data Network Affiliates
Phillip Piccolo
Harry M Aston
Make America Shine
Panther Mobile Inc.
Unknown Owner of Blog
Unknown Owner of Blog
Blogger known as Real Source
MLM Help Desk (for info on members being sued)
MLM Home Biz Today Blog
Brian Hardy (Global Verge Counsel)
DOE Defendants 1-30
ROE Corporations 1-10
See for yourself here we gooooo………………..
http://www.horrycounty.org/SCJDWEB/onlinedocket/C…
I can't wait…… Finally we will hear the other side, If he is dead, If he is really doing something illegal why the hell would he do this..
Something to think about.
This takes it to a whole other level.
Plaintiffs claim Fraud on Janice Pettit and Mark Petschel
Slander by others, RICO Charges by Global Verge and Phil Piccolo.
What is next!!!
You get'em Dead man I can't wait to see these guys eat their words.
Still waiting to hear from someone at the new company that was formed, I am over panther.
panthermobilebiz@gmail.com
Thanks
Told You So,
Thanks for stopping by and offering up some interesting reading. However, I must say what you have written doesn't really answer any questions that have been raised, so I hope you will be informed enough to answer some direct questions.
1. Who is "Wireless Dealers United Inc. & Unlabeled Wireless Inc., and what do they have to do with anything? From all I have read, this company isn't involved in any pending lawsuit.
2. Where are the above two companies incorporated and who are the principle officers?
3. In moving to the defendants I find even more interesting questions. Why would a corporation with no assets ) "Make America Shine" be listed as a defendant? We just received paperwork showing the Panther Mobile Inc, is the company with the assets. And the real company is "Make America Shine, Inc." Small detail but in a court filing huge. I find it interesting that Data Network Affiliates is listed, because that company is no longer in business at all, and the new public company has nothing to do with wireless. (Looks like someone is not doing their homework.
Now moving down to blogger known as "Real Source" this should be interesting since there is no way to serve this person, since they are no using their real name. Wait, I see MLM Help Desk has also been named 😉 Well, this is where it really gets interesting because if this is true, the attorney in this case is not doing his job very well. First he should have listed the owner of the blog, not the blog just the blog. Second, the author of the posts (Troy Dooly) should have been listed, and lastly, this will be a federal issue, since I'll stand my my First Amendment Rights. And even based on the resent 9th Circuits decision (See Lou Abbott's article at MLM-TheWholeTruth) Amway .vs Woodward. Based on the Court Opinion, Greco and party are going to have their work cut out for them to show anything I have written, reported on, or gave an opinion on, let alone any other bloggers have hurt his reputation, any worse than he may have done himself by reporting here or elsewhere.
4. By the way the link you provide doesn't go to any type of filing. You might want to provide a case number, docket number, attorney's name (unless this was filed Pro Se) which Greco's or someones personal name should be given.
So sport, please provide us with the facts and not just some half documented facts.
5. Although they have a right to file their lawsuit. They also have to disclose their is a pending case. This case should have been counter filed in Nevada, as PHPI has done claiming a different jurisdiction. This case (if there really is a case) will go nowhere until final jurisdiction is determined. That could take years. I sure hope everyone involved has years to wait.
6. By the way RICO charges are criminal charges and can only be filed by a federal agency. And to show RICO, there has to be a continued practice of some form of criminal organization. This should be an interesting one to follow. Are you telling us Greco and Crew have gone to the feds and provided documentation showing ALL of the defendants above are working in tandam performing acts for some organized criminal organization?
I'm going to contact Derek Broes and see if he can hook me up with a screen writer and a movie producer to sell this story. This makes Dallas look like a sitcom.
Troy,
That might be a better movie then social network, I will invest in that picture. LOL
G-
Hey Troy …
In the first place anyone with any legal experience would know that you don't just merely file a lawsuit civily or federally without the attorney first taking your claim, researching and looking up applicable laws, discovery, dictation to secretary for typing up and then client review and signature and all the other things that go along with filing a lawsuit of any kind. Nevermind the fact that the lawsuit would have to be filed in Las Vegas considering the former lawsuit filed by Global Verge against this person "Christopher Greco" rather than in Horry County, South Carolina.
It's amazing how many people think it's possible for this character "Christopher Greco" to be able to file any such lawsuit given the time between when you first made this posting and report and today October 23, 2010. People who have not had any legal filings either for or against them plainly don't realize what it takes to file any type of lawsuit against another yet alone a grouping of tentative individuals or corporations.
This should be a good learning experience for all the "chest beaters" out here supporting this "Christopher Greco" and attached parties above and beyond any reasonable doubt.
Thanks for all you do Troy!
Viktoria & Gary Affron
Executive Team Concepts
386-438-8056
Told You So …
ROFLOL! Especially at the name of the County __Horry County. One has to admit that Mr. Greco is great at hiding things, saying things that aren't true and basically creating situations that don't exists.
Could you please help everyone out here as your link goes to an online page for Horry County that requires some filling in and / or multiple choice. There is no way to see what you're talking about unless this was all a joke, ha!
Told You So & Played Out @ panthermobilebiz@gmail.com …
Panther Mobile, Inc., and Mr. Harry Aston, CEO has reached out to you in an effort to determine your identity within our data base since as your former pen name identiy here initially was in fact "Played Out" on October 21, 2010 at 6:21 pm – – using the Panther Mobile, Inc., main corporate website in representation of your own website and stating concerns and / or complants regarding your April commissions. You have not replied to an eMail directly from Mr. Harry Aston directly to your email @ panthermobilebiz@gmail.com to date regarding this request.
Now it is again all to obvious that you have now posted yet again using another pen name of "Told you so" on October 23, 2010 at 2:48 pm – – and again using the main link to Panther Mobile, Inc., Corporate Main Web Site as well as violating our 2010 updated Policies & Procedures stating that no distributor may use any part of fraction of the name Panther Mobile in any eMail address such as your current panthermobilebiz@gmail.com — which accordingly to our 2010 Poliicies & Procedures is an infraction and direct violation of such stated within.
However, in both circumstances and fact that Mr. Harry Aston reached out to you by sending you communication and requesting your information and actual name associated with your previous or present membership @ Panther Mobile, Inc., and in an effort to calculate your exact commission circumstance __you have thus far refused or ignored any and all reply communication to such and have to date not replied to Mr. Harry Aston, CEO of Panther Mobile, Inc.
It would be strongly advised that if you have any intentions of receiving your April commissions you state were never paid __that you consider submitting a support ticket to our 24/7 support system at your Panther Mobile, Inc., main replicated website on or before October 31, 2010. If however, you do not attempt and accomplish such __Mr. Harry Aston will in fact consider your sitatuion regarding April commissions null and void and any monies owed to you will in fact be forwarded and donated to Troy Dooly's Catalyst Organization as a donation from Panther Mobile, Inc.
Instead of doing so much complaining __may we suggest that you do the right thing in that you've made your complaint known on this site and at least should've attempted to retrieve whatever monies you feel are owed to you. If Mr. Harry Aston or our 24/7 Support Team hears back from you by October 31, 2010 __we will as Mr. Harry Aston has suggested attempt to consider and resolve your felt due commissions. Please address your concerns and requests for your April commissions to:
compliance@panthermobile.com on or before October 31st, 2010 as requested.
In refusing to identity yourself even in private communication between Mr. Harry Aston and yourself at your panthermobilebiz@gmail.com eMail address, you are showing a lack of interest or resolve in receiving any past commissions you feel are owed you and __as is apparent only complaining in being party to the current situation regarding both past and present situations involving posts of Troy Dooly having to do with Global Verge and one said "Christopher Greco" and those issues.
Obviously, as your new pen name suggests "Told you so" and your recent comment as to you no longer wishing to be involved with the NEW Panther Mobile, Inc., and "I'm over Panther" __ that's perfectly acceptable if that is your true desire. Mr. Aston wiith total integirty, honesty and ethics is merely trying to assist you wether or not you have left Panther Mobile, Inc., and have moved onward.
It is your responsibility if you're going to complain in public forums and blogs to do your own due diligence and make your voice heard as far as your situation and commissions you feel are due.
Please at least take the time to identify yourself either in reply to Mr. Harry Aston, CEO @ the NEW Panther Mobile, Inc., or send your personal contact information to: compliance@panthermobile.com.
Of course any of us on the 24/7 support team or myself as Director of Compliance will be more than happy to assist you and your concerns. You only need to contact us and let us know how you would like to move onward or forward in your endeavor to receive your April commissions.
Again we welcome you to please address your concerns and requests for your April commissions to:
compliance@panthermobile.com by October 31st, 2010 as requested.
Sincerely,
Viktoria Affron
Director of Compliance
Panther Mobile, Inc.
386-438-8056
Troy, Micah Collins does not know…"facts", perhaps don't refer to him (no egg policy)
Actually his reporting is sooo far off it will embarrass him later. Troy now I cant trust you, to tell you!
People: Randy is ALWAYS 3 steps ahead, that why he built 1,000,0000 in 18 months (MLM Record)
Micah your better off "Trying" to build a down-line in "one" company…than walking away from the industry and criticizing all the other people trying to make it happen.
If its a heavy weight fight and you get knocked down… get up on your feet and go back at it fighting… the crowd cheers loud…however your reporting is booing this action ???, making judgments pre-maturely and its not over by any means.
Perhaps "think" before your eager to cash in on others who are making things right. Are the banner adds paying you?
Ear on the Rail,
It took me a second to stop laughing at what you wrote before I could reply. But, here we go, so I hope you can help us all out.
1. What facts did Micah get wrong? Not sure why you say someone else got it wrong, yet you do not provide the facts.
2. What MLM Record? This is one of the funnest things you wrote. Over 95% of the Direct Selling companies are private and NEVER Release their numbers. Of those who do, Primerica, XanGo, Noni, Mary Kay, Herbalife and MonaVie still hold most of the records. Although the companies in the MLM Wireless Niche do hold their own records which I am not sure anyone will beat.
3. As for trusting me. This has never been one of my goals, and it never will be. This blog is not about trusting me or anyone else. It is about providing enough facts, evidence, professional opinions that folks will stop to think before just jumping into the next company which is full of hype.
4. Again, provide where Micah got it wrong on his article on WOW?
Sport it is so easy for you or anyone else to come onto this blog and get your comment posted. However, to stand in front of a firing squad and write an article which you know some folks will not like and will criticize takes a whole different kind of person.
Yes the banner adds do pay. I use them all the time, Any outside link add Pays
Chris Greco Says:
" I am the most calculating person you will ever know,"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
All in good time…"beware the no egg policy"
Troy did Micah make any BIG money in mlm ???…if not he is NOT qualified to post…
Troy remember your loyalties..they last years in this business…
Not months to the next story…your in violation being impatient…shear pop!
But how could a pop blog run being patient ? …Fucket lets throw them under the bus and get a laugh…great for ratings and hits = aka Troy
Ear on the rail,
I always find it interesting when folks ignorant to the facts, want to shoot the messenger when they ask the hard questions. I find it even more interesting, when after posting a comment, where a detailed explanation is given, they still want to keep promoting their personal agenda and propaganda.
However, each time I take the time to give a detailed response their are others who will be able to see through the hype and propaganda. So let's get started.
1. Since I have no clue how you define "big money", I can't provide a direct answer to your question. I can say Micah is in the top 18% of direct sellers who are full-time working their business over 20 hours a week. But since I was raised in the South where is is seen as rude to ask a person how much they earn, that question has never come up. Besides, it's never about how much you make, it's about how much you kern.
2. Not sure what your inference is when you talk about loyalties. If it is directed at me personally, then you of all people should know I give my loyalty to few, but those who earn it, know what is expected to keep it.
3. As for impatience, what specifically am I impatient about? I've not posted directly on the Liberty issue, for two reasons. First because as I have stated numerous times "I do not believe Randy has specifically tried to screw anyone." and second because Randy has not returned any of my recent calls. It seems to me the best thing to do is allow others to follow the story, listen to the reps and former reps and watch what the Bankruptcy Trustee, AGs, or other regulatory agencies decide on this. Besides at the end of the day, if the current reps can't pull the company out of this situation, then they are the ones who lost faith in the leader.
Although, times are changing, and those companies that don't get their compensation plans in line, may have bigger issues than those who post or comment on this or any other blog.
4. Again, you as with others talk out of ignorance when you talk about "pop' ratings and hits." If you put as much time into doing some due diligence as Micah, you might know some documented facts before you post.
Please explain to the readers of my response exactly what hits, and especially what rankings you are referring? See most folks who follow my coaching already know we have removed all SEO off this blog, several months ago as we prepared for the launch of the new sites, and the fact most people today are getting their news first on social networks.
It is easy to see you have no clue to the fact ranking wise this blog has been flaking and at best holding steady for several months.
Do to propagate a fallacy that is yesterday's news is nothing more that another attempt to divert the readers from the main topic of this thread.
Now with all that said, you are a great debater, and I am sure we will continue to agree and disagree for many years to come, because we are able to speak to each other with respect and complete authenticity, none of these Politically Correct crap.
I find all of this material interesting. However, I wanted to post a comment mainly to point out to any reader, that Mr. Greco, Ms. Holton, and Mr. Christman ( and Mr. Sipe too) are charging fees (dues) via their organization(s), TechSoft Mobile & MLMConexus, which are advertised as membership and sign up fees. These fees are clearly illegal under both federal and state law. I have several friends who have gotten involved with and might still be involved with these individuals. The fact of the matter is, you cannot collect fees in the manner in which they are doing so. It is called a "pyramid scheme" and is clearly illegal. Here is the S.C. statue regarding this matter;
S.C. Code of Laws, SECTION 39-5-30. Pyramid clubs and similar operations declared unfair trade practices
Any contract or agreement between an individual and any pyramid club, or other group organized or brought together under any plan or device whereby fees or dues or anything of material value to be paid or given by members thereof are to be paid or given to any other member thereof, which plan or device includes any provision for the increase in such membership through a chain process of new members securing other new members and thereby advancing themselves in the group to a position where such members in turn receive fees, dues or things of material value from other members, is hereby declared to be an unfair trade practice pursuant to SECTION 39-5-20 (a) of the South Carolina Unfair Trade Practices Act of 1971.
I called the Attorney Generals office and discussed your matrix and fee schedule with them. Their response was that your activities clearly fall under this statute. By the way, each party is liable for a $5,000 fine for each and every instance you collect a fee or any dues that fall under this statute.
So whatever other issues each of these people might be a party to, in this particular matter they are over the legal line.
Jake,
Thanks for stopping by and providing some great 3rd party commentary. You do bring up a fine point, and one which has been raised off and over over the last 18 months. Since this situation has turned to S.C., I am glad you bring this to the forefront.
Living An Epic Adventure,
Troy
Jacke Heape,
Personally would go one step further since Techsoft Inc., is located in Bradenton, Florida and call the Florida Attorney General. This is the home base for the company known as Techsoft Mobile.
It's just a shame that Kevin Sipe behind the scenes and in the hand of apparently this Christopher Greco who on this very site (if you click on his name in Red, and at least up until early this morning) is in fact using this mlmconcexus.com requiring a username and password (at least that's what pop's up on our computers) and charging anyone additional fees above and beyond what is legal!
Guess Mr. Sipe and Greco must have need of large monies coming in to do what they're doing to all the people they've been doing it to!
Keep digging your hole deeper victoria. As for mlm wireless news I don't control them or what they say. As for the irish judgement the complaint was filed in june. But hey I think you will personally see what I can sue today and tomorrow. I hope you can afford counsel victoria cause I'm about. To own some people.
Lastly I see you still avoided the question. Why. Didy you use the name terry taylor. Give the real reason. Otherwise who knows where that audio will go.
On this tape victoria also talks about how kate green is a bitch and so on.
Should be fun to watch panther officers look at each other andsay damn why did you say that victoria.
You can't win at my game victoria your not that. Breed.
Can't wait for reps to debut the scam sites on pantheer and global verge.
What's funny is when a scam site gets ranked higher than the actual company.
I haven't even scratched the surface.
We shall all soon see
Chris, seems you are trying to divert the issues toward everyone but Chris Greco.
As the popular saying making the rounds today. "Man Up", Chris Greco we think
your not a 400 lb APE, but rather a real "Pussy"!!
Still looking for your responses and all your legal docs, and judgments to appear. Everyone is awaiting your attorneys ok for you to do your promised live interview. (I'm sure you have more than one).
WHAT IS YOUR EXCUSE TODAY? Last week when all hell broke loose on you, the 400 lb Ape promised retribution and brimstone to all those involved by Monday, then it was Tuesday. Well it's Tuesday, duh!! Typical Greco timeline.
There does seem to be a timeline in the works for you, but it's not one your going to like.
So until then, let's put the attention back on Greco's issues not on Victoria. You did get one thing right, she's not your Breed. I ask who is?
Iknowyou
I Know You …
Thank you! It's at times like these we all need to allow this one to continue humiliating himself as he's certainly doing a good enough job of it all on his own and as a matter of fact, the shortage of decriptive enough words prevents any further reply to this person.
You're a great person and your comments are certainly appreciated!
Viktoria & Gary Affron
Executive Team Concepts
386-438-8056
Your still a cowatd you wont use your name becuse when mlmconexus takes off and does well u will be one right there that said chris I told you I was with you.
say what you want your the pussy I mean coward.
Chris, it's starting to get to you isn't it ? I know you so well. Believe me there are a lot of past associates enjoying this one.
Still waiting !!!
Iknowyou
You know Chris, here is my question. What is going to be different with mlmconexus? I mean, many of us have followed you from company to company. Always the same promises disguising the lies. When is it going to end Chris? When will your followers stop getting rug pulled out from under their feet every 2-3 months?
Like I said yesterday, maybe you should finally leave this industry before you single handedly destroy it and any credibility it may still have. Go back to selling porn, so the rest of us can escape the drama you created in mlmwireless.
I know you. If I were chris I would say you are nothing. Personally I think he enjoys when you guys blog about him.
Paul as for you, Your a sell out and you sold out your people for a compensation plan that only pays out 35% from prepaid, What a (Edited BY Troy) damn disgrace you are.
Lastly Chris did not pull the rug out from (Edited By Troy) Crap. Chris is still at TechSoft Mobile he is just backing MLMconexUS with product and Services.
So let me guess Paul your calling Debbie, Steve, Calvin, and Veronica the problem now?
You're a (Edited By Troy) joke paul douglas just as you were in Global Verge. I am so glad you are no longer my upline (Edited By Troy).
I Know Nothing,
The next time you post a comment, be very careful about two things.
1. The use of the F-bomb and other hard words.
2. Taking the Lord's name in vain.
3. Personal verbal attacks.
Outside of those few things, I hardly ever edit a comment (outside of fixing spelling errors).
Troy
IKnow Nothing,
No truer name for anyone on this blog, than yours.
For the record, I did not sell out anyone, but stuck to my guns. I could not in clear conscience follow anyone who would make a promise, fail to deliver, and make up some BS excuse as to why. Nor could I recommend anyone else do the same.
As for your leaving my downline, you have been replaced. You haven't been missed. Based on your above post, it appears you are two letters shy of being an asset to mine or anyone else's business.
October 25, 2010
*****BREAKING NEWS***** Chris Greco and Greco Holding Group obtain a foreign judgement against Global Verge, Mark Petschel, and Ted Robbins… We have also been given the first look at a slander suit filed against multiple people companies and even MLM Help Desk. With the live interview Tuesday this should get interesting.
LOL …WHEN? (too short a window within in the past 3-4 days, not possible) These things take time as anyone with any legal savvy knows these legal filings can take a minimum of at least 2 weeks or more to line up (with statements, discovery, notification, secretarial assistance, financials, filings and notarizations) to even be available and ready to be filed in a court of law with signatures etc.
In addition, there is No Recent Blog present and accounted for Listing Plaintiffs even though they claimed on October 22, 2010 everyone should watch for the next nights posting on October 23, 2010 – including a 3-way interview between Amanda, Chris Greco and his attorney …where is it?
Still nothing yet @ 1:30 am EST except a main page change in posting information there and prior attention to the following nights post had now been removed in total!
*** Foreign Judgement already been filed and has taken place already *** ? SO NOT and Totally Bogus and … Completely Unbelievable Nonsense and ..exhibits a truly ignorant bully mentality!
Anyone with any sense of legal process knows already that in the past few days time since Troy Dooly reported his video post regarding Chris Greco just 3 to 4 days ago and some guy going by the name of Christopher Greco using a dead persons social security number on a bank account application wherein Global Verge had deposited approximately $123,000.00 dollars of which Chris Greco had reportedly already written checks for cash to himself in the amount of or cash spent of some $55 + thousand on various other things!
How can anyone believe that this supposed "Christopher Greco" character has already procured some judgement from Ireland involvinh Greco Holdings Group, Inc., which cannot be found online and when asked about stated it was "Irish Federal" (another hoax probobly) thus not being able to be found online (yeah right) stating this is already in place in 3 – 4 days time against Global Verge, it's corporate officers or for that matter anyone else? ALL wildly and insanely pathological, egotistical and desperation in shaking his little boy red fist in the air while turning rosy cheeked (matching his beard) to show his obvious anger and self disgust at having been put down and caught in action!
On Chris Greco aka Amanda reporting MLM Wireless News on current (10/25/2010 @ 1:30 am EST) main page:
*** My only question is can the Ireland's court judgement be enforced here in the United States. See the blog for the full list of plaintiffs and more information on the Judgement Greco Holding Group obtained against Global Verge Inc.
Wait just a moment here – did or did not this Chris Greco just state on Troy's MLM Help Desk this site today as fact in reply to "Partners" :
Chris Greco says:
October 24, 2010 at 9:13 am
"We will be filing to seize GV assets to the Judgement from the Irish Court, To which Global Verge Never responded and the Judgement is completely enforceable here in the US".
SO WHICH is it? October 23, 2010 – Monday (tomorrow) or now Tuesday (day after tomorrow)? Seems he can't make up his mind or is incabable of getting any of his stories straight (as usual) yet again …Isn't that interesting?
FACT: Chris or X-Man …you probably couldn't even sue a pea off the end of a toothpick due to the fact you'll be out so much money defending all your lies and legal infractions both civilly and criminal when all is said and done. Everyone knows by now where your $82,000.00 lawsuit ended up with Global Verge …in the dumpster!
Since your buddy Kevin Sipe seems to think he's also escaping (not) …maybe he can loan you some of the monies he's come in contact with via eVerge and his former company and their distributors and apparently now the distributors @ TsM paying illegal additional charged fees (if true)… for this mlmconexus.com usage according to Jack Heape (see below) who has many, many friends @ Techsoft Mobile aka Techsoft, Inc, @ 5454 LENA RD – Suite # 104 – BRADENTON, FL – 34211
Hopefully Jack Heape (see below) and many others duped @ TsM will in fact take steps to report Techsoft, Inc., to the Florida State Attorney General's office in Tallahassee, Florida also @ Bill McCollum – (850) 245-0140 – 400 S Monroe St, #Pl01, Tallahassee, FL
Our prayers go out to all in this situation and we wish nothing but good thoughts and future successes to those who have been duped by these two characters Chris X-Man Greco and Kevin Sipe for their involvement at any level in duping and harming otherwise good, honest and ethical people!
Chris, you are the best of all time when it comes to snake oil. You should have been
born 200 years ago and you could have traveled West for years without your reputation
proceeding you. Not so today, news travels fast and you can't out run it. Even with all
your calculated moves you appear to be NAILED.
Just got off your Conexus (Con-Us) and I finally made my mind to hang you out to dry on this one without me. I have followed you the last 18 months and the ID theft charges
made me take notice of who you might really be.
The call, praising the 4 leaders of the new company for stepping out to run this company, and you as their product supplier, made me wonder why you were running the call. The Ceo?The President? The Marketing & Recruting Ceo? The Compliance Officer? What neat little titles to run YOUR COMPANY. Come on Chris, we all know you can't be a Silent Partner your ego won't let you.
The heart of the matter, you promised everything on this call you have promised on ever call I have been on. Statement like, (exclusive only we have it), (we are the fastest growing), (we pay more than anybody). (we have more plans, more phones),
(we pay you 9 levels for 1 rec & 1 customer $29,000), (become financial independent),
and on and on and on
What really struck me was your comment on how all the other companies are failures and can't do it right and I be damn Chris Greco was behind them all. Ain't that something, it really hit me you are the reason they failed and you will be the reason
the new one fails when you end up where you are heading. New company leaders
tighten it up for a rough ride because Mr. Greco will make it hard to attract the kind of people you will need to survive. Look at each other and ask what you will do when he's gone.
Chris, really looking forward to all the info. and live interviews you will be posting to clear up the misunderstandings of who you really are.
Please change you greatest song of all time that plays prior to your call.
For some reason I feel sure your new CEO cringed when he came on and heard Michael Jackson's "Thriller" play for 10 minutes because of your usual tardness.
iknowyou
Hey cowards like u will say what they will.
Coward? Come on Chris, where are docs and live interviews.
Appears you are the real coward, among other adjectives
to describe you.
iknowyou
Iknowyou you are the coward. I too followed chris and if your so vocal have the balls to say who you are. See the reason you wont is because debbie and steve, with veronica and calvin have created something great and you want to be part of it.
So you think if you hide like the coward you are you can keep your position.
If you have been paying attention chris has been busy with family matters.
Now as to what was said on the call he was dead on. MLMconexUS has 24 hr live telephone support in english and spanish, and online IM Support, They also said they would open with home phone internet, and multiple wireless plans.
Well they have done what they said.
They also have D. Jack Smith as their MLM Attorney, So despite what you have said iknowyou aka coward this company has its shit together.
That is why your hiding cause you know it and want to be part of it.
As for things being chris fault. I disagree Kevin Sipe is a scumbag. He didn't pay us on the compression promised. I was making 700.00 per month. So in my book chris delivered. It took alot for these guys Steve Debbie Calvin Veronica to walk away from over 1000 a month to do what is right for you guys.
So just because you love kevin sipe and are swinging from his balls don't come on here and say this and that.
Chris said it right you are a coward. So come forward or its what it is (COWARD).
Darius
Proud MLMconexUS Distributor.
Oh lastly did anyone notice that the company announced their MLM ATTORNEY where is the TechSoft Attorney? Oh that is right they dont have one.
……………………………………………………..Iknowyou you are the coward. I too followed chris and if your so vocal have the balls to say who you are. See the reason you wont is because debbie and steve, with veronica and calvin have created something great and you want to be part of it………………………………………………………….
So you think if you hide like the coward you are you can keep your position.
If you have been paying attention chris has been busy with family matters.
Now as to what was said on the call he was dead on. MLMconexUS has 24 hr live telephone support in english and spanish, and online IM Support, They also said they would open with home phone internet, and multiple wireless plans.
Well they have done what they said.
They also have D. Jack Smith as their MLM Attorney, So despite what you have said iknowyou aka coward this company has its shit together.
That is why your hiding cause you know it and want to be part of it.
As for things being chris fault. I disagree Kevin Sipe is a scumbag. He didn't pay us on the compression promised. I was making 700.00 per month. So in my book chris delivered. It took alot for these guys Steve Debbie Calvin Veronica to walk away from over 1000 a month to do what is right for you guys.
So just because you love kevin sipe and are swinging from his balls don't come on here and say this and that.
Chris said it right you are a coward. So come forward or its what it is (COWARD).
Darius
Proud MLMconexUS Distributor.
Oh lastly did anyone notice that the company announced their MLM ATTORNEY where is the TechSoft Attorney? Oh that is right they dont have one.
I believe,
I find it interesting the D. Jack is the attorney for the company with Chris being involved due the fact D. Jake Smith and Mr. P of the company formerly known as DNA are very, very close friends.
Business is business troy and chris is a Vendor I am sure Mr.Smith knows this.
Either way I see it got quiet because they are about to kick all these sorry wanna be asses in this business.
And when you hear who is associated with the company, Forget Chris Greco, I am talking real networker, You will say they staged a coop from the juice business.
Some of us leaders have been told.
Again Troy this is not on chris or about chris and the company had him sign a non compete and a full disclosure of products and agents that he uses.
So no matter what MLMconexUS has all the products. And even more than what chris had.
So Troy go to the site, you can order over 20 carriers right now!! home phone and internet right now, Phone insurance today!
Mobile VOIP Monday. I am really excited that a company has finally done what it said. I am behind them 100%
If you base a company on who its vendors are then all the MLM Wireless companies are in bad shape, because most if not ALL Wireless people have records and frankly are thieves.
Sorry to say that but it is True. Ask Global Verge with their new one HOP-ON Inc.
Ask countless others about it.
If you are basing joining a company on who your vendor is then frankly you have no common sense and will never succeed in this business.
Wish you all the best of luck.
Lastly its know pretty much that Chris company provides service for WOW Mobile, I find it strange that when Chris is allowed to fully run the show and handle the customers that there are no issues, no problems, no loss of service.
Something to think about as I know he has single handedly lifted the mobile division of liberty freedom network out of the gutter.
So why you bash call names and hate, Even if he is not who he says, he does what he says. And I think honestly some people on this blog are in for a rude awakening.
So while you all piss and moan, Put up or shut up, MLMconexUS has, with 24hr Customer support via phone or online, Oh and they have real R.E.A.L…. Investors backing them, With a real attorney, and a real comp plan, real software.
Troy if you give credit to companies like vonumental that reportedly get it right, Where is the love for Steve, Debbie, Calvin, And Veronica? HUH?
Also you miss reported and the owners talked about this on the call but I have yet to see a retraction or an adjustment to your report.
Chris did not take these guys here, They left TechSoft Mobile because Kevin Sipe is a scumbag thief.
Chris publicly stated on the calls he is retired and is no longer building any more companies. He is out… Out… He is merely a vendor for us and WOW Mobile. That is it.
Now can we please get an adjustment of the Damn facts Troy!
If you are about distributors, and are about getting the info out there. Prove me wrong and fix that post.
Thank You
While other in my company want nothing to do with you, I am giving you a chance to prove them wrong.
Darius
MLMconexUS Leader
Troy,
It would be more than intesting if D. Jack Smith is in any way affiliated with Chris Greco and any of the people associated with him or Kevin Sipe. D. Jack Smith (as far as we know) is also closely linked (in a legal type of business relationship / friendship way) with the prestigious law firm of Gerald Nehra & Richard Waak (Nehra & Waak). He was to be one of their keynote speakers at the EX7 Seminar in Dallas this past August that has now been rescheduled for this coming February 2010 (also in Dallas).
We know this because we personally have tenative plans to attend thet February Seminar as D. Jack Smith and Richad Waak are great MLM Law speakers! Thus it would be extremely questionable that D. Jack Smith would have anything to do with Kevin Sipe or with Chris Greco due to pending litigation by Global Verge and others currently. The only way he could even consider representing these characters on any front would be if they had not been involved or assosciated with any prior cases he has had any involvement with regarding Global Verge.
For clarification: we are NOT saying that D. Jack Smith is in any way connected or a partner of the Nehra & Waak Law Firm. If so, then he definitely would not and could not represent anyone that has prior connections in any way to Global Verge or eVerge due to the fact that at one time Nehra & Waak represented a case involving the now Global Verge then eVerge and stil maintains an open file regarding those cases.
MLM or any other business Law firms that have had a client prior or have had any afffiliation with a case involving certain other clients __do not take on clients that are also associated in any way with that client they represented prior as it would then be considred a legal conflict of interest.
Clarification: the EX7 Seminar in Dallas was rescheduled for February 2011 (not 2010), that was our "typo" and in no way intended to reflect last February but THIS coming February.
Semper Fi Troy
After being confronted twice for saying things I didn't say. And I might add being accused of saying those things with language that I would be ashamed of. I am forced to waste my time and look through this blog. Another poster has a name similar to my own that user is
——I believe says:
——Darius
——Proud MLMconexUS Distributor.
Please note that the above individual is not me. I am
Dairus Jensen
A Distributor with Techsoft Mobile from Utah
We each spell our name with the i in a different place.
As my name is rare this kind of mixup in unussual but appears to have happened. So I'm here to clear that up and share my thoughts on the matter being discussed here. First let me say I (Dairus) am currently still affiliated with Techsoft Mobile. (While Darius is a Proud MLMconexUS Distributor) And that while I have spoken with some of the leaders of MLMconexUS and looked into that opportunity. I have found no reason for me to join that company at this time. I have no issues with them and wish them well. But I feel that there is no reason for me to leave Techsoft Mobile for that or any other opportunity. While I have heard accusations against Kevin Sipes. I personally have not heard or seen any evidence supporting those accusations. Just the unsupported accusations themselves that remind me more of a dirty political campain that anything professional. Especially the way those accusations were delivered to me. I mean really. Crashing into a conference call to yell and shout without giving any facts or information?!? I don't know who it was that did it, but I certainly can't take them seriously. I understand that people will claim that there is this or that problem with each company out there. Well I KNOW FOR A FACT that Techsoft is not a perfect company. That is because there IS NO SUCH THING as the perfect company or anything else on this earth. I feel that the opportunity provided by techsoft is good enough to be the best option there is for me right now. Other people will and do feel differently. Hey it's a free country everyone can join whatever company they want. Or even just keep going from one company to the next looking for the non-existent "perfect" one. Perhaps another company will come along that does something better than Techsoft, but if that happens techsoft will have many months of a head start on whatever competition will come. That is part of why I have chosen to stay. Techsoft is functional NOW. I can sell product NOW. I can Activate phone service for customers NOW. That is what I need to be able to provide useful and useable products to my customers, and that means I am in business NOW. I'm not waiting for the perfect company. I know it doesn't exist. I'm not looking for the perfect CEO. Again that doesn't exist. I am looking for the opportunity that I can use to be successfull. I feel I have found it. I wish everyone out there who is still looking for there opportunity the best of luck. And I wish no one harm. Not even the past company that did actually steal from me and not pay the commissions I was due. Now can we all stop wasting our lives with usless Blogs and go build our lives into what we want them to be! That's what I am going to do. In fact, it was what I was doing before I heard from my friends about blog postings this evening.
And hey I can't and wouldn't ask the guy with the similar name to me not to post. He is certainly entitled to voice his opinion. But if some one reading this blog thinks that they know one of the posters. Call them up and talk about it. I was glad I heard from two different friends about the posts here. One guessed I didn't make the posts. (because of the language in the posts) and the other liked what they thought I said. I flattered that they took the time to call me and share thier thoughts about it. Even if I didn't make those posts.
Have a good day and build a great future!
Dairus (notice please the i is before the r not after)
Thanks
Chris the people you attract from now on will be the I believe Darius type.
I believe Darius doesn't know how to submit his comments.
Bet you guys love it when they hit the submit button more than once
when paying their autoship payment.
Chris where is the fire & brimstone you promised us for Monday, then Tuesday?
Days change every 24 hours and I think tomorrow will be Friday.
Same ole same ole !!!
Boy you are pissed arn't you.
Iknowyou
No cause your a nobody and always will be coward.
I have heard from my friends that apparently the owners of Tech Soft Mobile and MLMConexus have heard about the post that I made previously on this website, and that they are not going to cease and desist from their fee structure and organizational practices. Therefore, it is my intention to file a complaint against them with both the S.C. and FL Attorney General's office.
If they are not doing anything illegal, then fine. I am wrong and I will apologize. If they are, then the AG will issue a cease and desist order against them.
My suggestion to them is to do what every other business does when it is trying to get people to invest; get an independent professional, in this case a lawyer, to write an opinion as to the viability, or in this case, legality of what they are trying to do. Problem is, I have read what several independent MLM attorneys have said about this matter and my understanding is that they agree with me.
What dog do I have to hunt here? Not a one. I just hate seeing people getting ripped off.
Then you better report on panther, global verge, etc.
Just a clarification ass clown! MLMconexUS charges no fees!! Its called an autoship with an actual product that gets shipped, TechSoft on the other hand I would have to agree.
But Mr.Heap I would tread lightly the corporate team said they would tolerate no BS from companies or individuals and would sue to protect their distributors, I hear that D.Jack Smith is really pretty good.
I Believe,
Not charging an upfront fee is a positive thing. However, that does not mean the company is not created in such a way to protect it from regulatory scrutiny due to the compensation structure. Solid MLM Legal Counsel taken and applied from Smith, Babner, Thompson, Grimes & Reese, and a few others should help.
Troy,
What a mess all of this is. As someone who is really passionate about the Wireless niche of MLM I am completely embarrassed by all of this stuff.
My apologies go out to those that have been taken advantage of by all the hype and fluff going around some of these "companies" pretending to be players in the MLM world. Please don't judge the MLM profession or more specifically the wireless portion of it by what these people are doing. There are some very good companies out there that are doing things right!
Ben Sturtevant
Hello Ben,
Thank you for speaking the thoughts of many of us in the wireless industry. You're right, it is indeed embarrassing to have such persons clouding the industry with unsavory personalities and actions.
Certainly as for myself and my husband, we appreciate your thoughts, opinion and words. We both are certainly very proud to be part of one of those companies doing things right. Although for some it's been a struggle …it still stands true that when people stick together doing the right thing, honestly and with integrity and ethics, they come out winners. There are a couple of quotes that we believe say it all …
"There are two kinds of people who will tell you that you cannot make a difference in this world: Those who are afraid to try themselves, and those who are afraid that you will succeed."
– Ray Goforth
"Let us be thankful for the fools. But for the rest of them, the rest of us could not succeed."
– Mark Twain
Viktoria & Gary Affron
Executive Team Concepts
386-438-8056
What I can't figure out is why some MLMers keep making the same mistake following the same people over and over again into bad situation after bad situation. What happened to making an educated business decision before you join something? Why aren't these reps flying out to corporate headquarters FIRST to tour the corporate facility, to meet with the owners in person, to see the phones that are in stock, to see the shipping department, to see Rep and Customer support?
The problem is that good people are following so called "leaders" that want a short-cut. Unfortunately there isn't going to be one in a long lasting wireless MLM deal. If you want to be a true wholesale provider of wireless then you've got to put the legal work in to get the deal done and you've got to invest the resources to make it work.
Ben I often wondered the very same thing. Why would educated, intelligent people, continue to believe in the lies? I mean they are sticking with him the way a battered spouse sticks with and defends the abusive partner.
That was when I made the correlation. The behavior is identical. Unfortunately the people that have stuck with him do so because they feel stuck, trapped, with no other place to go. He has them thinking that he offers the only true solution to their financial woes.
Listen to his calls.
Run the correlation yourself.
After a daily dose of hearing there is no other place, no other option for months at a time, you believe it,. no matter how much it hurts.
Hey, I am one to admit, I was a loyal follower (A GMF I believe Real Source referred to us as) as well. Defended him, prayed for him, cried for him when his Mom died (makes me wonder how much of all this was fictitious). I broke free when I finally got tired of the lies and broken promises. The blinders came off, and I finally saw that the emperor had no clothes on.
The people that are following Chris need to do the same. They need to look at what he offers from a logical side. Many former partners did the same, and he was bounced to the curb. I mean no contract with Panther (one of the best decision Harry Aston made), DNA done with him, even the founders of Global Pros realized he was a toxic cloud (my words not theirs) and severed all business ties with him.
What I find interesting is how these companies seem to be thriving now that they have divested themselves of this man
Reality is he is a chihuahua that thinks he is a pitbull. All bark, pitiful bite and easily crushed underfoot.
Hey Paul & Ben __
We couldn't have said it better ourselves. Thank you for your insight and keen revelations!
On another note regarding Ben's words __a lot of these distributors don't have the funding resources to fly out to corporate headquarters and in person see all the daily workings of the business. Sadly those are the facts in this economy and for those whose focus hasn't truly been on effectively choosing the right company to work with and for. Thus no extra monies are being earned enough for some to be able to travel to company events promoting their business. One would think in thia case, it would be a goal to be able to accomplish and earn enough extra income in order to be able to travel promoting their business and yes __visit their company headquarters as often as desired.
The real issue here (as we see it) is that the distributors are not focusing on their daily business but are spending more time fighting battles on blogs and forums rather than managing their distributorships and daily business in a professional fashion (nature of the level of some individuals focus in this industry). Its' time for individuals to operate and manage their home based business's in a real professional fashion and stop all the whining, complaining and otherwise futile efforts at being noticed without the time, effort and work involved to have a successful business and __find the one company that fits their desires and needs in having a professionally managed home based business.
If we could just get through to individuals that your home based business is every bit as important as if you had a regular office getting pay and recogition for the work you do daily. For those who've had regular jobs, you already know that if you went to work your focus was on your work and you knew that if it involved computers and phones that __if you were caught spending your work time on blogs and forums, playing solitaire, chatting on instant messaging, watching video's etc. that your job wasn't going to last long.
In the home based job industry, we do use computers, phones, social networking and even bring our business into the local areas we reside in. This is why it's necessary even in this industry to treat ones home based business like an everyday regular job, being professionals still __but in the comfort of your home. Just our opinion which may not mean much to some but with 29 years in the industry __it's made all the difference in our home based business's!
Viktoria & Gary Affron
Executive Team Concepts
PH: 386-438-8056
One added thought __
Blogs and forums are good for what they represent in the industry and getting the word out about especially good companies which is what Troy Dooly has been doing an expert job at. There's nothing wrong with blogging and commenting on forums but it truly should be done on lunch breaks or in the evening hours when ones work day is all but complete.
Were no different in some ways than a lot of people in regards to posting on blogs and forums. The difference is in remaining professional while doing such and not getting into fights, arguements and mud slinging which accomplishes nothing and does more damage to ones credibility and business reputation if continued in the vain it has been going on some of these posts.
We would encourage especially at this time for entrepreneurs and professional distributors to focus on your business and chosen companies. There's truly no need to answer to or reply to comments made out of vindictiveness that are designed to draw people into an alternative focus away from their business and being professional.
Simply don't reply to anything posted of a vindictive or arguementative nature and you'll be fine remaining a professional and being recognized with good credibility and business reputation. This is what will grow your business and provide recognition of you being one of the more capable professionals in this industry!
Hey Ben,
Intelligence and life experiences have always been a catalyst for common sense. For those without any recognition or motivation and inspriration to accomplish such __they have a long way to go. That's not saying it can't be done but …it's not how good they are but, how bad do they want it1
Ben …as the top earner in your company, you exhibit the experience and knowledge in what it does take and the promise of someone who cares more about the integral portion of the business (any business) you're involved in and are to be congratulated on your time, efforts, dedication and commitment to what you're currently accomplishing and motivating others to achieve also. Kudos to you and God's continued blessings in your efforts and commitent to helping the world do better …one person at a time!
Viktoria & Gary Affron
Executive Team Concepts
PH: 386-438-8056
I told you all 10 months ago that chris was a FAKE. Thats the main reason that I have not commented on this site for so long.
When chris started bragging to me about what his positions were and what stores he owns, I did some digging. I found all that he said to be very untrue. He has done NOT ONE THING alone, as he claims he has.
If you walk into his store in SC and ask any of the people who work there who he is, they have never heard of him.. Figure that one out.
Hello Troy,
I come on here time to check the pulse of the networking industry. Each time i come back it always a a Big Drama going on with allot of Wireless Companies. companies getting law suites, distributers loosing their money and reputation.
I appreciate you being a voice to thousands of people in the industry. Distributors simply want a solid company they can plant their flag and not be taking advantage of. I must say i have been fortunate to have been with (in my opinion) the best Telecom & Financial service company in the industry. Which is FDI.
For the last year since launching our new Telecom services. We have been Drama FREE. Mobile works Great, Video Phones are Awesome, Hands-Free services are Spectaular. People got their purchases on time & Most important we get Paid every week with no issues.
Troy…Hopefully people can find them a legitimate Company to plant their flag as I have with FDI.
Troy Keep up the Great work by spreading the truth. Distributers are counting on you. And we will see you Over the TOP Buddy.
Chip Kinsey
FDI VPMD & NTD
http://www.ilovefdi.com
1-877-536-4774
Chip,
Thank you for stopping by. FDI is run by some rock solid folks, who's field leaders love and support them. They may not always hit a home run, but Bill is fast to correct the mistake and NEVER make it twice.
Keep us posted on how things are going.
By the way, if you check out some of the other posts in the last 10 days you will see some great stuff, without the drama. Just the wireless niche is drama filled these days. It is crazy!
The fact of the matter is when Mr. Christman, Ms. Holton, try to bring in the true network marketer, they will have credibility issues. When they GOOGLE Chris Greco's name, they will run for the hills. Their going to ask why in the hell would anyone be associated with this fiasco.
Steve Christman and crew might be good people but this is sure making them look bad. Does anyone know if these four have any experience to start an MLM company ? Seems to me that they just labeled themselves with the corporate lingo terms and said here we go, let's open this thing up.
They will never make it as long as they are associated with Mr. Greco, on the other hand if Mr. Greco is not around, they will have problems cause it seems Mr. Greco is the only one that knows the technical side of telecom.
WHAT A MESS TO SAY THE LEAST !!!!!!
Big Credibility issues !!! Out !!!
I have read this blog for a while now and have had a good laugh at some of this. The truth is I was involved with Global Verge for a month til I figured out those guys had no idea how to run a business. I have followed them since.
Then I joined Panther mobile and was pretty active for them. Then Harry (who I had multiple conversations with) stole the money and commissions from distributors. This came long before the whole split from Kevin Sipe. This guy (in my opinion) is a joke and people that are worshiping at his feet ..well.. my god be with you.
There is one common theme on all of these companies and the "men" who run them. It is always someone else at fault. It has nothing to do with Chris Greco, Kevin Sipe, the wireless company that GV started using. I am waiting for them to all to figure a way to blame it on George W Bush. If you dont know the inner workings of an industry please don't start a business and don't bring innocent people into it for you to take there money. This is why you take on the title CEO.
All theses companies are dealers for page plus, Air Voice, Simple Mobile etc. If you want to make real money go straight to page plus and become a dealer (for Free) and sell to retailers at a lower cost. Panther and GV (i have no knowledge of any others) are pushing a pyramid as close to envelope as you can. You are getting no product or value for your monthly autoship. I am not an attorney but it doesn't take one to figure that out.
To tie this to this post to the subject of Chris Greco. I dont care if Chris Greco is Richard Nixon in drag he is not the reason these companies have problems. The problems come from the people running them. You need the smartest guy in the room to make good decisions for a company instead you have Bert and Ernie running them.
Thanks for the forum .
First Timer,
Your comment brings up a few questions.
Why do you feel Harry as Panther stole money from the distributors?
And if this is true, why haven't you taken this evidence to the authorities proving to them a criminal act was committed?
Troy,
I am one that he told would receive commission on people that I brought into Panther. I had another in my downline that was told the same load of BS. I just never happened. I defended this guy to my entire downline for weeks. I felt like a used $2 hooker. Remember this was long before Kevin Sipe left the scene.
Your question about why didn't I bring this up. It is just money, I can make more. If needed to cheat people out of it to make his business work then he needs worse than I do. I probably should not have used the word stolen. Cheated is a better word. He has to answer to someone else.
I liked Harry and really wished him well but people trying to shine his Halo just does not wash with me. People need to know what and who they are dealing with.
First Timer,
Having just read your posts and Troy's reply __ your points seem to have been formulated back when a few really bad apples were a part of the OLD Panther Mobile. In consideration of what you believe currently as relative to what you had been told prior in regards to actual happenings __it is important to note the OLD Panther Mobile as you knew it is definitely history.
1) It is Mr. Harry Aston, CEO and Kate Green, DOO __ who had the integrity, fortitude and intelligence to form an Advisory Team of top leaders who hand in hand faithfully sought proper solutions and led both experienced and knowledgeable leaders within the company who collectively corrected all the damages in healing the wounds left behind by one or more individuals who were involved from the OLD Panther Mobile.
2) It is due to all the current leaders and Harry Aston's dedication and commitment that we HAVE risen from the ashes and firestorms from the past and are continuing to stride and walk tall daily in making the NEW Panther Mobile one of the BEST prepaid MLM Wireless companies in the industry and to their credit __in a short 157 days! We can assure everyone with any reservations, that everything has been corrected appropriately and legitimately, is top notch, very successfully on the move and is currently being noticed amongst top industry principles.
3) It's what previous distributors and other "would be" distributors DON'T know presently and are unaware of due to NOT revisiting this company and keeping abreast of all the positive changes. These facts are what raises the bar for the future along with all the best available in the prepaid wireless niche being provided by the NEW Panther Mobile, Inc. company.. We'd strongly encourage any and all distributors having misguided concerns or misperceptions from the past, to revisit the NEW Panther Mobile and see what we have and who we are now.
4) As a NEW Company, the NEW Panther Mobile, Inc., is now an outstanding company of excellence, emerging as one of the top NEW MLM Companies and is bridging distributors and customers alike, to the future of prepaid wireless while currently providing the industries top commissions for anyone desiring a lucrative home business in becoming one of this company's reputable and " top shelf " direct distributors. This NEW company is quickly being recognized in an industry as a preferred choice for distributors in the home based business arena.
Perhaps you missed watching Troy's most recent Panther Mobile video post ?
Panther Mobile Leadership and Distributors Pull Together To Turn A Huge Corner – – Posted by Troy on September 29, 2010
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5) Yes, the OLD Panther Mobile had some trials and tribulations BEFORE July 1st, 2010. SINCE that date __the NEW Panther Mobile has emerged victorious and reconfigured successfully. We did some housekeeping and cleaned up the mess left behind by a few dishonest and unethical individuals. ALL known distributors that were currently active, qualified for the monthly commissions earned and who continued to pay monthly membership fees including those who requested owed commissions after the fact, have now been paid and the books are cleared.
6) The integrity and strength we've all shown with the monumental chore of weeding out, pruning and sweeping everything up properly with dedicated top leaders working hand in hand and working hard to put this company back on it's feet and back on the industry map where it should be and would've been earlier if it weren't for the hand of a few influentially harmful individuals leaving the OLD Panther Mobile wounded and broken, but not for long.
7) Currently distributors are enjoying a very lucrative business complete with all the BEST tools currently available (some exclusively) to build and grow their very own prepaid wireless home business. The NEW Panther Mobile has raised the bar in the MLM wireless pre-paid cellular niche with brand new everything and more to come. By industry standards the NEW Panther Mobile is far reaching upwards and above in doing everything RIGHT. That's what happens when good honest, ethical, intelligent people with integrity stick together to make something work and in creating excellence in the industry for distributors for years to come.
Harry Aston along with the top leaders and distributors at Panther are more than dedicated and committed to maintaining a culture of WINNERS and are truly enjoying BEING the newest wireless prepaid company claiming it's rightful place in the MLM industry. EXPECT the NEW Panther Mobile to be among those claiming top awards for BEST in the prepaid wireless industry niche and in addition __we are currently seeking LEADERS who have like minded intent regarding honesty, ethics and integrity and a willingness to persevere in longevity!
Viktoria & Gary Affron
Executive Team Concepts
PH: 386-438-8056
I think your gonna be surprised when you find out who stole your money. Harry wasn't in control of the software or the merchant accounts for handling the payments. Kevin Sipe claims to have the best software in the Galaxy and he's been working on it for ten years and handling the monies. It seems that the software works so good that every time Kevin uses it, he gets extra money that doesn't belong to him. When you confront Kevin about the missing commissions, he blames it on a glitch with the best software in the Universe, that he's been working on for ten years. So stay tuned first timer cause I think you ain't seen nothing yet.
Although it is understandable that some here commenting and replying to this post regarding one said "Christopher Greco" are to some degree upset, confused or misunderstand what's been happening over a period of this past years time in the wireless industry __fortunately not everyone here is as affected by this individual's actions or those associated with him.
It's really saddening after considering how hard we've all been working to build and grow our businesses __while all the time having to endure the drama that's been going on as the result of a few bad apples. This should never have happened and only proves that when we as distributors allow others to influence our decisions in such a way that does harm to us personally or our business __we need to step back from the drama and reflect.
Consider what it was that attracted you to the MLM Wireless industry and some of the people who are involved that have become so outspoken with no thought about how their words or actions were affecting all distributors in all the different companies.
If you're one of the ones recently asking yourself, "how did this happen?" __Jim Rohn's newsletter this week provides a great source of insight and solution to at least one of the problems resulting from the competitive nature of the wireless industry and the current ongoing drama.
Ask yourselves these 3 key questions:
“Who am I around?” You've got to evaluate everybody who is able to influence you in any way.
“What are these associations doing to me?”
That's a major question to ask. What have they got me doing, listening to, reading, thinking and feeling? You've got to make a serious study of how others are influencing you, both negatively and positively.
“Is that okay?”
Maybe everyone you associate with has been a positive, energizing influence. Then again, maybe there are some bad apples in the bunch. All Jim Rohn is suggesting here is that we all take a closer and objective look. Everything is worth a second look, especially the power of influence. Both will take you somewhere, but only one will take you in the direction you need to go.
Jim Rohn's experience and knowledge in the Direct Sales industry provides three ways to handle associations or relationships that may be holding a lot of distributors hostage and back in their business.
Want to know the ANSWER's to the above 3 questions?
Not only is this good reading BUT __GREAT ADVICE for todays drama and any future drama that may occur from being involved with the wrong people in business!
We highly suggest everyone reading and posting here visit his site (below) and READ Jim Rohn Newsletter for this week. It wouldn't hurt any of us as distributors in all these wireless companies currently to better ourselves and our business with this one way to DO BETTER!
http://www.jimrohn.com/index.php?main_page=page&a…
Enjoy!
Viktoria & Gary Affron
Executive Team Concepts
386-438-8056
i will continue to move forward with chris and get the job done. why don't every so called adult on here go build your own business and quit whinning and complaining about someone who knows this business more than anyone out there. chris is for the distributer making more money than the company that is why he has left everbody else because he exposes the truth on the distributers behalf. nobody likes a winner because they win all the time. and i like to win so i will stay on the winning side of the fence. enough said. i'll check back on here in about another 2 months. don't have time to waste on these bullshit blogs because i have a business to build and people to help.
Phil Rogers,
Thanks for taking time to post your comment. You do state a few things which bring up some questions. I hope you can answer these before the end of two months, since based on past track record, Chris may very well be with a new company.
1. How do you know the people who write on this blog are not out building their business, and this is just a way to release energy at the end of the day, or maybe their way of keeping the attention off their companies?
2. Exactly what do you feel is to much for the companies to make?
3. Exactly how much should distributors make, and what mathematical business equation are you using to come to this conclusion?
4. Not sure who you run with. But in the 1%er circle of direct sellers, trainers, and company owners I run with, we all love a winner, and support them winning all the time. This is why 1%ers in Direct Selling are in some form or another members of or supportive of, the DSA.
Phil Rogers, you hit it on the head in describing Chris Greco. "Someone who knows this business more than anyone out there". You are so right if your referring to con artist, liar, snake,oil, cool aid, foul mouth, and his famous lines, , "I'm not messing round no more", "Game Over", "It's a wrap", "My foot on your throat and crush you like a bug", "Yep I said it". I think his one liners are fixing to come back and bite his own butt. "YEP! I SAID IT, CHECKMATE CHRIS AND ROGER"
Even the worst offenders have to be innocent of some things said about them, and I guess that
goes for you too Chris. I know many of charges against you are true because I have recordings
of many conversations, both public and private between us, (me, you & Sipe) Yep I said it.
The recordings YOU make are for YOU to use against others, mine were for clarification and remembering the discussions we had. Maybe we get a chance to play some of them at some point. You do know, you are so easy to identify on tape because of your colorful, (vulgar) language.
How bout the conversation admitting you you set up the shell sites to troll for affiliates, especially
when it's free. Oh Yeah I have it. What about the data bases from GV and Panther? Oh Yeah I have the e-mail where I was solicited from that company before I ever knew who you were. What about
all the gold sign ups? All the Excel free sign ups? All the sign ups at Unlimited wizard for Global pros? All the Activation King Wireless sign ups? All the roll overs from Global Pros To TechSoft ?
From SoftTech to MLM CONEXUS.
Chris, this being 2 days before Halloween I think this blog is starting to look like "Nightmare on DOOLY STREET" with you playing the part of " Chris, Freddie Krugger"
Your live interview with Amanda on MLMWirelessConnection Sunday will be a Monster Mash, (I'm sure you still dance to that one). How fitting, Sunday is Halloween. While we are on the subject of the live interview with MlmWC which you have stated on this blog of not being associated with. Well, maybe we need to to hear the tape, as you are so full of words you forget what you say sometimes.
If you really want to get your message out try a live interview with Troy, I sure he will accommodated
you and it will make a lot of people happy.Now you must not take the 5th on the questions like all the pro ball players did with Congress a few years ago and are now fessing up, or going to trial, (MAYBE JAIL) or the hope of a plea bargain. Sometimes it does take years for justice to be satisfied, but it does prevail and it will here to.
See, I do know you Chris Greco. Let me count the ways I know you. Checkmate, its's a wrap.
Iknowyou
I have offered to do a live video streaming interview with chris
Troy one of my guys just called and said Chris on his 4 PM call asked if any were going to dress up for Halloween. He said he was going to be Troy Dooly. Hope some of their new affiliates who have not heard of you or been to your site will be curious enough to search for you and end up here.
The guy never let's his brain stay ahead of his mouth. I love it when he slips up. I think he has both feet on the whole banana not just the peeling.
Hey big guy, Chris Greco show us the real man you say you are. Step up to the live video streaming offer. Thought not! A PUSSY NEVER WOULD.
Iknowyou.
Hey let me say this go (Edited By Troy) yourself.
If your a man or really have a problem with me ill seeyou on november 6th.
I dont have time to waste on this site or your coward ass. I have a daughter to raise. So while u waste time here im building a business cause yhat is what real mlm pros do.
They dont waste time on rag sites. Or gossip.
I am willing to bet that as steve debbie and veronica and cakvin get this going you will be right there.
Thats why your a coward. Release the tapes then tough guy.
Go back to swinging from kevins balls.
I know you you don't kniw me and you don't know shit.
Go back to building techsoft and have a blast.
I know you are a coward.
Easy Chris, you might die from a stroke instead of a brain tumor. Seems I really have you
hog tied because your not in control on this site, and when Chris is not in control Chris gets angry and becomes a bad boy needing his mouth washed out with a bar of used soap.
Loved your comment, "I dont have time to waste on this site or your coward ass. I have a daughter to raise. So while u waste time here im building a business cause yhat is what real mlm pros do".
Really? How come you can't stay away from reading my comments and spending your valuable time responding. While I'm wasting my time your buliding a business? You claim to be a real MLM PRO?
If I were you, I think I would be spending my time trying to figure how I was going to get
my ass out of the crack your in. I know I'm in control with the comments here, and I bet at this very moment your mouth needs washing out with that ole dirty bar of used soap, UCK!!
Chris this just might become the longest running most comments posted blog Troy ever has. “Breaking MLM Wireless News: Global Verge Investigators Find MLM Wireless Activation King Chris Greco Dead”
This might run longer than Dallas, Gunsmoke or Bonanza (combined) expecially
if we have to wait for all your fire and brimstone responses you promised last week.
We are all still waiting. Troy will give you the fairness of a live video streaming to state
your case to all of us. How bout it? Nah! "didn't think so, I almost forgot you are a real pussy. But I do have to say Greco, YOU are a real pro, just not a MLM PRO.
I would be careful who I invite to see you on Nov 6th, a real pro just might show.
Now go wash your mouth out again. Taste bad don't it?
Iknowyou
Chris, I sat back and watched this unfold the last 2 weeks since the day it broke.
Most of the comments appear to be coming from 2 or 3 sources but the theme
is the same on all. Answers from you are being requested.
Frankly, I'm surprised you have not responded in the manner you indicated was coming .
I waited for your interview to come out on mlm wireless news last week?, Then from last night (Sunday)? I just went to site and nothing? I see here Troy has offered you an interview?
I'm disappointed that all your postings appear to attack the messages , and not defend what you say to be fact and truth.
I went through all comments and pulled the theme from each and I did the same with yours. As I did, a clear picture emerged. Answers from you are being requested, and responses from you are telling nothing.
A live interview, some kind of certifiable response from you would go a long way to the 100 plus comments made here. Some one liners from those comments follow, especially this one, I told you so! Just got off the call we saw the documents via DIM DIM Webinar Greco fights back…
WHAT DOCUMENTS?
THIS IS WHERE IT STARTED 10 / 21 / 2010
(Troy says:)
After 9-months investigating Chris Greco, the self-proclaimed Saddam Husein of MLM Wireless, Global Verge attorney, Brian Hardy notified me late last night, that Global Verge investigators found Chris Greco died on August 29, 1989.
( Troy says:)
However, what you did not have, that the investigators did have, is the SSN number used on the bank documents. When you have the SSN used on the bank document, which was signed by the Chris Greco in questions, according to the Court Filing, then you narrow down your search to just one person. The 14 year old boy who passed away.
(Iknowyou says:)
If you really want to get your message out try a live interview with Troy, I sure he will accommodated
you and it will make a lot of people happy.
(Troy says)
I have offered to do a live video streaming interview with chris
(Iknowyou says)
Hey big guy, Chris Greco show us the real man you say you are. Step up to the live video
streaming offer.
(Troy says:)
I did talk with Chris today, and he assured me his attorney would be filing a counter suit, and he would is willing to do a live interview in the next few days (although I did tell him to check with his attorney first.)
(Iknowyou says)
We are all still waiting. Troy will give you the fairness of a live video streaming to state
your case to all of us.
(Credibility Issues says:)
The fact of the matter is when Mr. Christman, Ms. Holton, try to bring in the true network marketer, they will have credibility issues. When they GOOGLE Chris Greco’s name, they will run for the hills.
(Chip Kinsey says:)
Each time i come back it always a a Big Drama going on with allot of Wireless Companies. companies getting law suites, distributers loosing their money and reputation.
( Ben Sturtevant says:)
Why aren’t these reps flying out to corporate headquarters FIRST to tour the corporate facility, to meet with the owners in person, to see the phones that are in stock, to see the shipping department, to see Rep and Customer support?
( Paul Douglas says:)
I broke free when I finally got tired of the lies and broken promises. The blinders came off, and I finally saw that the emperor had no clothes on.
(Partners says:)
getting into fights, arguements and mud slinging which accomplishes nothing and does more damage to ones credibility and business reputation
(Iknowyou says)
I have followed you the last 18 months and the ID theft charges
made me take notice of who you might really be.
Chris, really looking forward to all the info. and live interviews you will be posting to clear up the misunderstandings of who you really are.
(Iknowyou says:)
Coward? Come on Chris, where are docs and live interviews.
Partners says:
It would be more than intesting if D. Jack Smith is in any way affiliated with Chris Greco and any of the people associated with him .
Troy says:
I find it interesting the D. Jack is the attorney for the company with Chris being involved due the fact D. Jake Smith and Mr. P of the company formerly known as DNA are very, very close friends.
(Iknowyou says:)
WHAT IS YOUR EXCUSE TODAY? Last week when all hell broke loose on you, the 400 lb Ape promised retribution and brimstone to all those involved by Monday, then it was Tuesday. Well it’s Tuesday, duh!! Typical Greco timeline.
(Iknowyou says:)
Chris where is the fire & brimstone you promised us for Monday, then Tuesday?
Days change every 24 hours and I think tomorrow will be Friday.
Same ole same ole !!!
(Paul Douglas says:)
What is going to be different with mlmconexus? I mean, many of us have followed you from company to company. Always the same promises disguising the lies.
(Partners says)
In the first place anyone with any legal experience would know that you don’t just merely file a lawsuit civily or federally without the attorney first taking your claim, researching and looking up applicable laws, discovery, dictation to secretary for typing up and then client review and signature and all the other things that go along with filing a lawsuit of any kind.
(Partners says:)
THIS CHRIS GRECO once said he was BORN in BOSTON __NOW he’s saying he was BORN in IRELAND? WHICH PLACE NEXT? EVERY time there’s a question CHRIS GRECO finds a way to AVOID it
WHAT HAPPENED to ALL his stores in FLORIDA? JUST ASK HIM _-_he claims he STILL HAS A STORE IN __ORANGE CITY, FLORIDA !
(Partners says:)
“Christopher Greco” can make those decisions and either do the right thing and suffer the consequences according to his conscious or do the wrong thing again and run and hide. The ball is squarely in his court now!
( Rick Weston says)
Unless we are all to believe that somehow someone else with his name and SSN just happened to die in 1989… WOW! What a coincidence! ;o)
Told you so says:
October 23, 2010 at 2:48 pm
Answers from you are being requested.
YOUR COMMENTS CHRIS
Chris Greco says:
October 23, 2010 at 11:12 am
documents have officially been efiled it now is game over.
Announcememt monday
Chris Greco says:
Remeber that? Victoria or terry you will find yourself in the same situation as countless others monday.
Chris Greco says:
Again just for Clarification had they done research they would have found I was born in IRELAND, hence the Irish dual citizenship and Greco Holding Group being over there.
We will be filing a slander suit against GV and their attorney who is making the false claims.
Chris Greco says:
We’ll see what the court makes of all this as my attorney files a response and we. File a lawsuit in the proper jurisdiction. Here in south carolina.
Chris Greco says:
Lastly victoria I grew up in boston mass I wasnt born there but u will find this out on monday
Troy was right all the little companies will have to merge, monday will be a watershed event
Chris Greco says:
Lastly anyone can come to the new office in Columbia and see me any day of the week.
Chris Greco says:
Looking forard to the new websites dedicated to providing truth on panther and globalverge. Some may call it slander I call it payback.
(MLM WIRELESS NEWS says:)
Live interview postponed, We were to have an interview with Chris Greco Live, But due to family issues we have had to reschedule it till Sunday at 8PM Est Stay Tuned.
Wayne Askew
Hey Wayne,
It's obvious you've spent a lot of time going through all the comments and have now reiterated many partial comments important to this issue. What a chore, time-taking venture this must've been and is much appreciated!
The thing is along with many others __everyone is looking for clues as to exactly WHO this person claiming to be once said "Chritopher Greco" might be. The fact that several people seem to have been introduced to a certain female as this "Chirs Greco's" half sister seems to be a "might be" possibility and one that surely the feds will be looking to at some near point in the future (or at least one would hope). Although she claims such statement isn't true __none-the-less, she's made it quite clear this "Chris Greco" is a good and close friend. This in and of itself should lend some info as to his whereabouts if the authorities accomplish sufficient questioning. Although, she has stated she isn't related, there have been at least 3 to 4 people who have been introduced to her via this "Chris Greco" stating she is his half sister.
One has to wonder however, how close is this certain female to this "Chhris Greco"? In reading back, she's apparently claiming she has an office @ 1700 Ridgewood Ave Unit C – Holly Hill FL 32117. __
That would be in Volusia Country near Daytona Beach and Ormond Beach, Florida and also near where he had his Cell Phone products and services store in Deltona and one other which he's recently admitted to still owning currently in ORANGE CITY, Florida.
Everything seems to be in place to find and question this "Chris Geco" who was in fact involved in some unsavory dealings with Global Verge, Panther Mobile and who knows how many other companies including as someone else illuded to __Google Adwords or whatever. The very fact that he continues to threaten certain people leads one to believe he is worried on some level.
Wether or not he is who he says he is at this point doesn't matter. When someone uses another person's social security number wether or not that person is living or dead __ there must be a deeper and darker reason for doing such. Otherwise the question is WHY? That is up to him to explain when and IF they can find out who he really is. Not to mention his threatening all these illegally recorded phone calls that everyone surely knows by now (Dan Hesse, CEO of Sprint), where in he is highly capable and so computer savvy he's able to obviously able to take a sound bite and create an entire speech fabricating voices of both prominent and common people that in fact don't exists and were never recorded in the first place.
Surely everyone reading this post and comments must be looking for him. Today's technology online offers a lot of multiple ways (some including fees) along with knowing other people and friends outside one's own online presence and some may be willing to pay for the backgound checks if they find what they believe may be this anonymous one "Christopher Greco" who claims to be the "Wireless King" __it shouldn't be long now.
What's truly sad is that any of this had to happen at all and even sadder when an individual who has a love interest i.e., wife, girlfriend, common law wife etc., and a few very young beautiful children __doesn't get the bigger picture. Those children are the MOST important thing of all and what they perceive when all is said and done and years down the line and they haven't had contact with "daddy" is what they're going to be living with the rest of their lives and possibly pass on in attitude, belief systems etc., to their own kids and grandkids.
There's nothing so big or so worthy of bragging in a criminal or fraudulent lifestyle that could ever make up for damages done psychologically to little children who then end up carrying those memories and stories with them the rest of their lives – our brains are like a hard drive – it never goes away!
Thanks Wayne for your putting all the current comments into order. Hopefully, your time, effort and work along with your wisdom will help others see the REAL story behind exactly WHO this "Christopher Greo" really is and the affect of his and others actions that have damaged so many!
It's truly a shame and at some point we may all with any sense of compassion may feel some empathy for this guy __doubtful after all he and Kevin Sipe has done to so many people and as Paul Douglas said __just like a battered woman protecting her abusive husband, so goes those who continue to believe in and protect this one said "Chris Greco". If any one of us is wrong on this issue, we'll all owe an apology but it's highly doubtful given the use of a family's dead son's social securtiy number on a bank account application to deposit and spend a portion ($55+K) of $123K belonging to Global Verge wether or not it was their's or that of distributors – it's just ALL wrong!
We can only pray for this person's soul and that this person using someone else's name and identity will see his wrong doing and ask for forgiveness from all those including his family members he's embarrassed and done harm to in one form or another and __make a real effort to change his ways. God Bless all of us, his family and yes __even he.
Viktoria & Gary Affron
Executive Team Concepts
386-438-8056
Partners terry vicky or whatever name you are using. Nice try. Everyone that knows me knows where I am right in myrtle beach, sc. In fact I run a retail locatioon evryday. Oh and we have several federal agents here in town we know. So again nice try.
I haven't responded because I have had famiky iissues I have had to take care of and frankly the company attorney has requested that I no longer reply here. Or other blogs without first having it approved.
So wayne and vicky I've been asked not to. D.jack smith will be handling all company business and as I said I have responded legally.
Again wish everyone the best of luck.
In closing vicky you haven't seen my social security number, and you will owe an apology or whatever else could be decided.
Again anyone can feel free to see me anyday of the week at my store.
This is chris greco signing off on mlmhelpdesk
At least until legal says otherwise.
and half sisters I have none but I do have a full sister named denise that runs a store in quincy, mass.
Iknowyou __
You posted on October 29, 2010 at 11:06 am :
"I know many of charges against you are true because I have recordings of many conversations, both public and private between us, (me, you & Sipe) Yep I said it. The recordings YOU make are for YOU to use against others, mine were for clarification and remembering the discussions we had. Maybe we get a chance to play some of them at some point etc., ………".
Not so oddly, this has been the "Chris Greco" and others "Modus operandi" as a Latin phrase, approximately translated as "method of operating" __the term is used to describe any one individuals habits or manner of working and their method of operating or functioning. In English, it is frequently shortened to "M.O.".
Also not surprisingly __this supposed "Chris Greco" has been threatening to play unauthorized and illegal (see federal and state law regarding such actions) __ considering recorded audio's involving several individuals conversations to which he was the original caller and without informing the conversation between himself and any other person that the call was in fact being recorded.
Not surprisingly at this point with the "Dan Hesse" call recordings and fabrications of his voice __none-the less and most knowing by now how this "Chris Greco" is extremely capable of being able to fabricate most anything including a minimal recording of someone else's voice and then being capable of turning it into an entire speech let alone a few sentences such as to convince and influence innocent unsuspecting people that it's the "real" thing when in fact it is not.
Both federal and state statutes govern the use of electronical recording equipment. The unlawful use of such equipment can give rise not only to a civil suit by the “injured” party __but also criminal prosecution. Federal law allows recording of phone calls and other electronic communications ONLY with the consent of at least one party to the call and more often than not the party being originally contacted by the contacting party involved. In other words, the person making the initial call to another party. Regardless of the state, it is almost always illegal to record a conversation to which you are not a party, do not have consent to tape, and could not naturally overhear. Federal law and most state laws also make it illegal to disclose the contents of an illegally intercepted call or communication.
Since most of these supposed "Chris Greco's" calls originate in South Carolina or in Florida and points beyond __ federal law makes it unlawful to record any telephone conversations except in one party consent cases which only in some cases permit one party consent recording by state law.
It's important to understand the difference between what has become known as one party consent and two party or all party consent. One party consent simply means that one party to the conversation must have knowledge and give consent to the recording. Two party or all party consent means that every party to the conversation must have knowledge and give consent to the recording.
Among the twelve states that require all party consent are the most prominent points of calling from said "Chris Greco" and any and all points between Florida and South Carolina. As to the other 48 states with the exact same regulatory requirements and laws __this "Chris Greco" no matter what wireless platform his multiple cellular phones are based on or provided with, would be subject to both state and federal laws regarding communication and any recording devices used by him and originating in the states he regularly resides in such as South Carolina and Florida, as a means of threatening others in posting audio's and illegal recordings of his conversations with him or he with them..
The words "check mate" do come to mind!
Please leave my retail store out of your drama. This has nothing to do with me or my locations. The stores have nothing to do with any mlm! To make clear Chris is not my sibling but a friend and not you or any one else has a right to be a critic when some of you have had your hand in as much if not more than chris in all this drama. Let all go back to work now and make these mlms a success and not the joke of these blogs!
Phil I find it interesting that you state you will be back here in two months. Chris's track record shows that it takes him about that long to implode any business he is involved with.
Chris, how convenient using D. Jack Smith to weasel out of providing any response to alleged accusations against you on this blog. 2 weeks ago you couldn't wait to bring your firepower for all to see (documents, and interviews). The old 5th amendment plea weasel would have worked as well, but we all know the use of that forms an opinion in one's mind of "GUILT" .
All charges against you here on this blog, and elsewhere are presumed accurate until you prove otherwise. With you, it'[s guilty until proven innocent.
As far as D. Jack Smith, I place little as an audio you made here a few months back claiming representation by MLM Attorney Kevin Thompson (see the response below)
MLM Attorney Kevin Thompson
has publicly and privately denied he is connected with the newest MLM Wireless company Global Pros. On the below recording Chris Greco, CEO of Global Pros states he is hiring Kevin Thompson as Global Pros MLM Attorney.
Yes, I still know you Chris. Have a good day, game over, it's a wrap!!!!!!
Iknowyou
Iknow you
Iknowyou
I'm just wondering why D. Jack Smith, would tell Chris not to talk, when some of his other clients like Gary Calhoun and Phil Piccolo don't have issues facing their critics in this community?
Hey Troy,
We're just wondering why D. Jack Smith being a long time friend of Gerald P. Nehra, Richard Waak (Nehra & Waak Legal Firm), Phil Piccolo and others would even consider representing any company or business personal or otherwise of this supposed "Chris Greco" or anyone connected to him __let alone be advising him to "be silent" on any blog or forum and not utilize his "Freedom of Speech" in choosing where, what and how he says (comments) on any one subject?
Not to deflect from your personal favorite and very reputable attorney Kevin Thompson but in an effort to clear these assumptions regarding attorney's representing certain MLM Wireless companies and what these gentlemen believe in and stand for when it comes to MLM Law, we would encourage people to visit __
D. Jack Smiths online site @ http://mlm-law.com
As well as former Global Verge attorney's:
Gerald P. Nehra & Richard Waak @ http://mlmatty.com
Doesn't it stand to reason that if D. Jack Smith or any other MLM Attorney for that matter would step up to the plate and acknowledge their representation of one said "Chris Greco" given the outloud comments on many blogs and forums and if in fact they were representing him or any of his so called business's? Troy, wouldn't you have at least heard from D. Jack Smith by now if this were true?
Semper Fi
I Know You,
Not only the ol' 5th Amendment Plea but also the "I can't recall" answer to prosecutors in court. Both serve well to imply guilt on at least some level not to mention impeachment when proven facts are cited throughout prosecution. That usually leads to even more guilt wether implied or proven.
Oddly enough with all the commenting, sometimes even the smallest comment only serves to draw even more attention, can and usually do make others question "what's the big deal" and in addition, maybe then people may even question "is there something else" they may be missing? The more people comment, more information is given and in some situations __the more said is more that can lead to even more questioning and the possibility of even more implied or proven guilt.
Yet in other cases when wrongful actions have been done to others or harmful actions requiring legal action, bringing attention to such may in fact assist in finding the person or persons responsible for doing such harm. Depending on the type of harm done, the long arm of the law is exacting, far reaching and actually serves to protect society in it's entirety.
The beautiful thing about law enforcement is that we as a free society and individuals not exempt from laws made, have our own free will to do as we please but when it actually involves doing harm to others, being involved with or knowing of others doing the same, we are protected by laws that make certain activities illegal and prosecutable by our federal and state legal systems.
The absolute best about mystery novels is that the author usually writes the story in such a way as to leave the reader on their own to decipher and understand the "who, where, when and how" of any one story. Maybe some would be better off to exercise those same methods in terms of commenting on blogs and forums. Leaving it up to others would definitely make the process of figuring it all out somewhat slower, doesn't it?
We're very fortunate to be living in America and have our "Freedom of Speech" but that doesn't save those engaged in "talking" (commenting) if there's question as to their own or another's credibility or reputation wether personal or business. The internet is a huge place with go-zillions of users and inevitably a place where most anyone or information about them can be found.
Troy, I have tried to contact you and the person who left a comment with my retail store location. I am amazed and appalled that people think it is ok to assume or guess and then include my home and retail store in there lies and fairy tails. My retail store and my home have nothing to do with MLm and must be removed. As for me I am not related to Chris but yes weather some people like it or not we are friends. This has nothing to with my store or home however. I thought it was bad when people showed up saying they were from a church asking about Excell at my home and now you are allowing people to post my retail location that has nothing to do with mlm or chris. There needs to be lines drawn some were! I have kept my word I am still at tech soft and we are doing well there and have been enjoying the drama free Zone and pray one day troy this sight will be the same and go back to reporting the news. Please remove all my physical locations and if people need to contact us please email or call. Thank you for correcting theses issues befor it gets out of hand. This is getting close to slander, depermation of caracter, and herasment
Candice,
I have been out of town most of the week.
If you will send me a message offline TroyDooly@MLMHelpDesk.com and link to the specific comment, then we can see what needs to be corrected.
And for everyone reading this response. Candice has always been above board and very straightforward with us here at MLM Help Desk. We may not always see eye-to-eye, but she is a straight shooter.
you pieces of (crap – edited by Troy) hiding behind a computer. chris has passed away due to his brain tumor. he lived the last several months knowing this might happen and yet worked around the clock
for me and all of his leaders trying to create a company that the distributer can be paid fairly. that is all he ever wanted and never found with any of the companies he was with or started. chris has always been for the distributer. all you pieces of shit never knew that and did not want to see it. he left every company because he found out that the company was screwing the distributer. no this is not a dam joke and if anyone wants a piece of my ass they can come to irmo , sc and look me up. i have heard enough of this gosh dam chris greco bashing on here by people that don't know him at all. send me an email and i will respond with my address and you can come to my front door and ring my bell and i will give you an ass whipping on my front lawn. he might have been rough around the edges but he was fighting what was right. some of you want to stand behind a computer and call him a pussy. show up at my doorstep you freakin whimps. and troy , chris laid one of his last request on me to let you know to kiss his ass! so troy i tell you and your fucking posters to kiss chris greco's ass. and to other posters on here that had nothing to do with this please forgive me. my good friend chris greco has lost his battle with a brain tumor that most people thought he did not have. he is now gone.
Phil Rogers,
And interesting comment at best. Since you seem to be addressing everyone and not one specific person, I'll let some of your comment slide through. However, you left out the one most important item which everyone will want to read… Chris's obituary!
Chris over the last twelve months has brought most of the criticism on himself, so even though you may want to defend him, I think he has done a pretty good job himself explaining his mode of operation and personality.
Now sport as for your comment about folks hiding behind computers and such. Next time use some logical deduction before you comment, because you just did the same thing. Yes, I read where you would provide someone your address, but seriously do you really think in today's day and age any reasonably intelligent person is going to drive to some stranger's address?
Just provide the link to Chris's obituary and Once verified, I will give it has much coverage as we have his rogue actions over the past year.
What I find most interesting about all of this is the fact I gave Chris many opportunities to do a live interview as I did Phil piccolo and he refused. All it will take is him coming forward answering the hard questions and he could get on with his life.
Well, provide the links to the obituary and then your comment will have value.
Living An Epic Adventure,
Troy
i'm sorry about my previous post. it was a post out of anger and emotions because i know chris greco well enough to know that he wants the best for his distributers. he drove miles for me to try to help me get my dreams and he has worked hard for me and the leaders at mlmconexus. that i know. he sacrificed everything he had for his family and us. he had a bigger heart and more guts than a lot of people will ever know.
he just wants the distributers to make all they can and not just 35% payout. he had a rough way of coming across sometimes but i respect him for what he really wants for all of us as distributers. this business can help a lot of people and lord knows i need the help and so do others in this bad economy. i have a dream and i'm going to chase it with all i've got. we all need to be very carefull about what we say about others. may god help me to be the best i can be and help others and lift them up and not tear them down. we have enough of that in this world. steve , debbie , veronica & tune , calvin , and myself will do the best we can and not give in or give up because it would be a slap in chris's face if we did. he had our backs and we have his.
You know considering the legal noose closing around his neck, I would not be surprised if he had faked his death to take on a new stolen identity. So I too, as well as many others would like to see an obituary or link to it as the one thing I have discovered about Chris Greco, is that the truth and his reality rarely coincide.
By the way Phil, Paul Douglas is my real name. Do some detective work and you will discover my address and and phone number. All you have to do is a whois search on my domain name.
But if you come to my door, I won't touch ya. You are not worth the 15 grand. But I will offer you a beer.
Now if it is entirely true that Chris is dead, so be it. It is what it is. I loved Chris like a brother. However he betrayed my trust and and lost my friendship as a result. My heart goes out to his family, but I will not shed a tear for him.
Phil, received word from a call last night the Greco is now really dead. Word is he passed away Saturday 5 pm eastern after emergency surgery for his brain tumor. If true may there be mercy for him from the supreme judge.
Before you start bashing everyone here and inviting everyone to come get a piece of you
(I understand your 5' 5" 135 lbs) lets cool it and get some real answers .
Do I think it's true? Do you know it's true? If what you thought to be true wasn't, how soon would you want to know? Same here buddy, NOW!
Some of us have been through questionable events in our lifetime. Is this another one of them? Who shot JFK? Who shot JR in the same city? Ruby or Lee Oswal? Where is Jimmy Hoffa buried? Who started the rumor of weapons of mass destruction? Did Bush steal the election from Gore? Where is the birth certificate?
And now where is Chris Greco? Short answer, we likely will never know. What I do know is the last 6 months he appears to have orchestrated the event that took place Saturday. Oh!, I understand Saturday was to be the big kick off of Conexus with Chris inviting anyone, including your's truley wanting any action from him could find him. Roger maybe he gave you ideas of how to invite someone to come see you also. Well, I know now if I had come to meet a real or imagined Chris Greco he would have been a no-show again.
History shows he misses these events with some major roadblock always coming up. Don't have the time to list all now, but here are a few. Live Interviews that never take place (one scheduled on his own site last week (baby issues). On the way to a big event auto accident occurs which put him in the hospital where scan test revealed his brain cancer and only 5-6 months to live, ( no account of this found), (no Dr, by name given could be verified). Trip to NY, (truck break,s down). Big kick off Houston, TX (hospital stop in AL baby coming). El Paso TX ( baby still coming) East coast event (hit a 300 lb deer on way) had to miss event. This guy has had more major accidents in 3 months than most have in 30 years. And then this week-end? Is he really gone? (who knows), after all several of his relative have passed on more than once and risen again.
Don't get me wrong, if this event is for real, I'm sorry for his family (wife & children) and I'm sorry for the guy we all knew as Chris Greco..
We all will be looking for the obit, and maybe someone can obtain a certified death certificate to post here as Chris himself posted some of his legal information from time to time.
Chris Greco's last comment here
Chris Greco says:
November 4, 2010 at 8:58 pm
Again anyone can feel free to see me anyday of the week at my store.
This is chris greco signing off on mlmhelpdesk
At least until legal says otherwise.
Iknowyou
5'10 230 with nothing to loose and i welcome all comers.
you might have heard of me but you surely don't know me.
besides all that non sense i owned up like a man an apoligized
to the board about what i said out of anger.
So where and when is the funeral service being held? I promised Chris I would hire actors to show up as Beavis and Butthead.
Phil Rogers, since you were such a close friend of The Greco maybe you can scratch up the obit for him, or maybe his team at MLMCONEXUS will provide it, as they were very anxious to make sure all got on the announcement call (even those no longer on their regular e-mailing list).
MlMwirelessnews always shows interest in promoting news, or mabe the new reporting kid on the block (Tim Lonsen the founder of the MLM EXPOSURE TEAM) can gather this news as he appear to have all the inside information for anybody or anything, (who is Tim Lonsen? lol) All be aware, there is a rumor (lol) Greco runs both these sites and their postings. It appears from information gathered Greco made a posting from his computer after his demise. Wow! how he do that?
Without some certified announcement coming forth, the ghost of Greco will always haunt MLMCONEXUS in their building efforts. I would think they would be anxious to shed light on this issue as soon as possible and move on.
No Greco listed here from last 7 days Mrytle Beach area obits
Eubank, Louise
Fulton, Katie
Gaudreau, Marjorie …… Greco appears to be missing
Green, Almeta………………
Hadley, Danny
Hansen, Richard
Hemingway, Ander
Hoffman, Caroline
Hooks, Mary
Justice, Ida Brenda
Read more: http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/myrtlebeachonlin…
No Greco here from Columbia area obits last 7 days
Fulton Jr., Robert B. – Lexington
Galloway, Margaret – Columbia………………………………….No Greco
Galloway, Margaret Wadsworth – Columbia………………..
Gath, Thelma Parnell – Sumter…………………………………..
Gimla, Robert Paul – Florence……………………………………
Gleaton, John Stuart – Pelion……………………………………..
Graham, Thelma Ruth Calder – Timmonsville…………..
Grant, Joseph – Columbia…………………………………………
Gray, Evelyn Berry – Newberry…………………………………..
Griffith, Myrtle Wylene Lanier – West Columbia…………..
Hafner, Arthur Joseph – Columbia
Read more: http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/thestate/#ixzz14…
Maybe have wrong city, or maybe wrong country (Ireland?)
Is this THE GRECO's greatest caper?
Iknowyou
Phil Rogers, we are still waiting (OBIT). The leaders of MLMConexUs, Steve Christman, Debbie Holton, Veronica(nasal) Kimbal, Calvin Ellerbe, Candice, (surely you know), and Kevin Sipes as a business partner,what do U know? (i know you all don't want your names here for various reasons) but, we are still waiting (OBIT).
I know you folks don't come here for the latest, but just in case your here, Hi !
Be sure you keep telling the unsuspecting prospects not to come to these blogs because they are just like the National Enquirer . We like to call it the National Exposure .
Until you respond to obit issue, you will have credibility and transparency issues with anyone looking at MLMConexUs. When the truth is found that "The Greco" still walks among us, you will done. Done, because you are part of the cover- up-scam.
Amanda, aka? (lol) at the mlmwirelessnews what do you know? (lol)
How bout you Mr Lonsen, aka? (lol) @MLMSCAM what do you know? (lol)
Unlimitedwizard.Com ? Activationkingwireless.com? Excel? You guys still here?
We wonder why no one can pull the wireless niche together? Why there is no trust? Why no one has made money? The reason being, the reputation MLM Wireless has spawned, always rears it's ugly head of deceit, and precedes every new beginning.
Show us the obit, show us the certified DC, show us anything.
If YOU don't known the truth, we know you have to be wondering also.
Iknowyou …………….Still
I have to come clean here. I really screwed a lot of people. I have to come clean to Mr.Rogers that I am a phony liberal. I have been to the meetings.
I support Obama care. And I admit just like Troy I have taken the money.
Yes I did.
I really know nothing, and I'm coming out of the closet today.
My name is Sam.
I took the money and I'm ashamed. I sold out.
candice Kealy says:
June 11, 2010 at 3:40 pm
I had spoke with you before and I would like you to know I Candice Kealy Smith the mother of three, a disabled vet from the air force, a loving army wife, a cell phone store owner, and the owner of Excel and will be taking every step to make this the company people want to be a part of! I can assure you and everyone I have a tech team in place to make the ordering and delivery a smooth process. We will have training to teach and guide our team. It is free and I have lawyers working around the clock to take all precisions to protect the leaders, suppliers, and distributors. We are also going to be involved in travel with my partner and best friend. I have had Chris Greco come on as a consultant and think he knows allot about mlm and wireless. I know about his history and his health. I would like to make it clear I am the owner and building my team daily to make this free mlm a success and the only one that delivers. I can and will provide all legal docs to show these changes as needed. I am not denying and I have made it clear on every call my experience is in cellular not mlm and that’s why I am building a great support team who has had years of experience in this department. If you have any questions Please call me any time 386-882-5766 personal cell, 386-523-6335 business cell, 386-265-5992 office cell
My office is located at
1700 Ridgewood ave unit C
Holly Hill FL 32117
I am making a business and home the distributors can make money and build great relationships for a life time!
Still if that happened to me, where I was being harassed at home and work, I would file a police report just in case!
Chis,
There is a really simple way for you to clear everything up, in regards to your identity, if you desire to do so.
Just have a reputable company do a background check on you to verify your identity and give the results directly to Troy's attorney or submit the results to Troy directly from your attorney. I know that this may seem like a big waste of time and/or money, however it would certainly save you a lot of time in having to post on this site in response to all the negative publicity that you receive here about this subject, among others.
Regards,
Rick Weston
Quietly building my team… one rep at a time.
Who cares…go build your business
Your wasting your time going after this.
Back to business,
To some providing updated info is not a waste of time. All news stories should have some kind of ending. It may not be what folks want to hear, but it will end.
Hi Troy. I am truly amazed that this is still on the go. I could tell you a thing or two about many of these companies in this sagaand all the suspects having dealt with them to try and get something on the go for our team in SA over the last few years. However I would rather contribute something positive and of value to this forum then descend into all negativity and pain that skeletons in the closet bring. What's done is done. I believe people really should observe all the histories/integrity of these individuals and companies and put your reputation and money on something that stands for a purpose greater than you, something stable and authentic, hype only lasts so long. All best bud and good show as usual.
Rory,
You make some valid points. Over the last 12 months we have tracked some amazing stats as to the type of news stories folks seem attracted to the most. YOu can bet in 2011 we will be making some interesting changes to the blog.
Great to hear! I look forward to seeing what you have in store to share. We still need to have our discussion sometime, got some things that I know you will be inspired and interested to report on.