I’ll use this use this MLM Wi-fi replace to set the file straight on a few issues and to attempt cease a pending authorized motion.
One of many issues I actually respect about Zoom Cellular is that they run their operation like a enterprise. Once they have points or issues, they do not pussy foot round, Matt Foreman reaches out, and schedules a name. At present was one such name.
I met with Zoom Founder, George Burton, Founding Distributor, Matt Davis, and Chief Authorized Counsel, Matthew Foreman to discus the next gadgets of curiosity.
Is Matt Davis nonetheless with Zoom Cellular? The reply is YES! Like every group who has come collectively to type a brand new enterprise, it takes a bit time for every group member to determine the place they will thrive. Matt made it clear at the moment, after crisscrossing the nation within the Zoom Bus, he realized his actual ardour is group constructing within the discipline, not working an organization from the within.
His ardour for the entire Zoom household, and is unwavering loyalty to George Burton personally was actually refreshing.
Zoom VOIP Community – George Burton was stoked once I introduced up this query. He shared how this new Zoom VOIP Community will work with conventional landlines and cellphones. Zoom had a particular software designed to make use of with their wi-fi telephones, and is yet another service which George had promised to the sphere and have now delivered.
He’s sending me a cellphone to textual content this new platform, so be waiting for an upcoming article on this new ZOOM VOIP Service.
Is the rumors of a pending lawsuit towards ZRT Cellular true? George Burton addressed this primary. He made it very clear he’ll defend the Zoom model, and the Zoom distributors privateness in any respect value!
“I’m not going to set by, and let anybody harm our enterprise. We now have invested over 1,000,000 {dollars} to launch this firm and ship on our guarantees.”
Matthew Foreman, made it very clear, he will probably be submitting a civil grievance towards ZRT Cellular and a number of other people who’ve made it clear they’re the founders of the corporate.
Matthew was additionally very clear, that a minimum of one ZRT Founder, had been a former worker of Zoom Cellular, and had copied they distributor database earlier than leaving the corporate and has made it accessible to ZRT Cellular for cross solicitation.
Now, if this seems to be true, and I’ve no purpose to query Matthew Foreman’s then a minimum of one ZRT Founder, could also be legal adjustments, not only a civil grievance. And whether it is confirmed that ALL the founders of ZRT knew the database was stolen then we could have a legal conspiracy on our palms.
Launching a competing firm in the identical area of interest is Free Enterprise aka Capitalism and I’m a proponent of such a enterprise.
Nevertheless, when an organization is launched by stealing confidential and proprietary info, then I draw the road.
I’ve acquired a number of emails from the founders of ZRT Cellular, together with studying by way of all of the feedback on the final Zoom article. Primarily based on what I’ve learn thus far, I will probably be writing an article subsequent week after I’ve submitted a listing of inquiries to the founders of ZRT Cellular and have acquired their responses reside or in written type.
Looking forward to the report Troy… Meeting with George and Linda (VP of biz development) for dinner downtown here in San Antonio. Thanks for getting a quick update done. You ROCK!
Nick Schycker – Zoom Founder
Troy, Great report on Zoom, With that being said I still would not touch a wierless cell phone company with a 10 foot pole as far as a home based business. I would still would like for someone to show me a cell phone company that has made it more then ten years in the MLM Industry. Keep up the grear work.
Bud,
Good to hear from you, thank you for taking time to post. Like you the wireless niche is not where I would hang my hat.
I think Zoom are bluffing to scare the competition…its all talk right now
Troy did they offer a screen shot or a print out of this to you?…do ZRT deserve this with out Facts ?
Did people say a few months ago… zoom did this to another company they copied ?
How are zoom mobile planning to pay founders bonus (is it owed ?) if the lawyers get the money ?
ZRT is a totally different name legally…e.g how many printing stores out there say they are "quick" print
Actually did Zoom copy the name from a Nigerian Cell phone company named Zoom Mobile ?
This is… all pushing and shoving other companies around on talk…it tells me less about them…did they not tell their own founding reps blah blah blah or you will be "kicked out" ?. Nice language !
Troy, should zoom "do" what they "say" in the south? (…put up or …. ..)?
Are zoom a documented mvno "right now" ? lets see the doc's!…or talk of it like every one else
What type of leadership does zoom have getting all P.O ?
More Blah, Blah, Blah,
You bring up great points, let me take them one at a time.
1. I never ask to show the public the "discovery" used as the basis of the complaint, until after the complaint is filed. When the complaint is filed, then all documentation will used in the filing will be put on this site as I have done with other companies.
2. I do understand the direction you are taking with the name issue. However, "print" in and of itself is a common word used within the niche it serves; same would ring true with the words mobile or wireless.
But when someone is first to market a name i.e. "Zoom" and another company comes into the niche or a vertical serving the parent niche and uses the same name in any combination, it does open the door to a copyright or trademark infringement.
It open an even bigger door when the folks who launch the new company are from the former company. Let's use WOW Mobile as an example. If George has launched using any combination of WOW he could have ended up in legal issues. Instead he launched Zoom. Close in meaning but completely separate.
3. The posability of Zoom copying a "zoom" from another Country may have happened. HOwever, if that company is not operating in the USA then it is a mute point.
4. As for paying founders, in general terms, the payments will be paid based on the contracted terms, and will have nothing to do with legal issues.
5. As for the put up or shut up, I'm a little lost. Zoom has devlivered on their services, commissions are being paid and the company from the outside looking in seems to be steadily growing.
6. As for the MVNO question "Is Zoom a real MVNO" the short answer is yes. The longer answer will be in an upcoming post where I show which companies are and are NOT MVNOs in the MLM Wireless NIche.
As always great questions
Troy I sincerely hope you cover your bases with that post with DOCUMENTATION FROM THE FCC, I mean you have heard that it is NOW ILLEGAL to claim to be an MVNO if you are really not. Not my words but an amendment to the Wireless Communications Act. Also in that amendment, Prepaid companies will now have to collect personal info and keep it on file.
Just thought I would Share that, I reached out to Zoom Mobile in Nigeria who does operate on the West Coast here to see what they think.
As for ZRT yeah I have to agree with the Above Poster they too have legal counsel and putting out incorrect info on ZRT could have their own Pit Bull coming after companies.
My question is I have heard alot about his Founders bonus, And have heard from 8 people that they have not got it yet. What gives on that Troy? Let us know.
As for everyone else, I am happy to announce that ZRT will also have access to our 4G network and use of Both TECHSOFT MOBILE MVNO's WIth VERIZON and SPRINT.
So this should be a Wild Ride, I also hear that WOW is getting of the ground and is going to be a Major Player again. Nice. Well should be an interesting ride.
Chris…
Just letting you know on the Founders Bonus.. As Troy stated and as it states on the Zoom Mobile Corp site. It specifies a date checks will be issued. The 8 founders who you have spoken with either: A. don't pay attention, B. aren't involved enough to know what is going on, or C. aren't involved at all, put $1000 up and have done ABSOLUTELY nothing. Just what I have observed thus far.
Not making any harsh judgments, BUT it seems to me you are rooting against Zoom for some reason, almost like your "trying" every last ditch effort to cause rough waters for the company.
You can be happy with ZRT all you want (I don't know why on earth you would be), seems to me they may not even get off the ground enough to use "your" 4G network.
Thanks,
Nick Schycker – Zoom Founder
not rooting against zoom at all. I wish them the best. And think they have some good things going for them.
Chris,
You make valid points about the FCC issues. Which is one reason I beleive the community needs an article explaining in detail about an MVNO. We did tis early on, but a new one will help everyone.
Chris, as for the Foundr's Bonus, if you have heard from 8 people who have NOT received it, and are wondering why, they and with you should read the Zoom articles or at least watch all the vidoes. I have been very clear when they can expect to receive the bonus (If they are still in good standing with the company based on thier individual agreements).
ZRT did good changing the "Revolucion" part of the name. However, since they have come from Zoom Mobile, and the laws are clear at a federal level who owns the LOS (Line of Sponsorship) I pray they have their ducks in an order. Because if they are found to have a former employee of Zoom now working for them, or part of the equity team at all, I do not believe they will win a court case.
And, now that you have made the puplic announsement you are supplying the backbone to ZRT Mobile, I would expect you will get pulled into a lawsuit, if for nothing else depositions to see when ZRT owners first contacted you, or to see if you or any of your equity teams or companies have been a part of the LOS at Zoom.
And just when I thought things were calming down in the MLM Wireless Wars, a new battle forms.
Troy we would be more than willing to let you go over our communications I contacted zrt after they were blasted here. Troy I have seen some emails from terry from matt davis saying some very bad things actually the same acusation zoom is making of zrt. I wonder what wow will do with that.
In fact let me know ill post it troy, I think it will open up some eyes here. As for zoom suing me get in line. And I really dont think they want me as a thorn in thiet side. Troy call me. I think it is only fair if these emails are put out there it will clarify alot for wow. Zoom and zrt. In fact call terry and get the emails.
If this community is about truth troy then these bomb shell facts will be put out there. this needs to be out there if anything for the wow reps.
But hey who knows maybe if they make that move me zrt anf wow counter sue.
Troy I think
Chris,
It is not me, you need to focus on. It is Zoom and others who will be following the LOS.
My concern is the distributors, and not seeing them go down the road again in legal issues.
When companies do not start right, and try to short cut the legal side of things, it does not help anyone. Since Matt Davis is not a part, nor has he ever been a part of the ownership of Zoom, it doesn't matter what he may have wrote.
What matters is, if what Matthew Foreman told me is true, and a former employee of Zoom copied a database containing the LOS, and that LOS is not in the hands of ZRT and the former employee is working for, is is an equity partner in ZRT, then all kinds of legal crap will roll, and distributors will get hurt.
WOW, no pun intended. It seems that the MLM Wireless market is a very big mess! I lost a lot of money with some of these Ground Floor Opportunities only to fall flat on my behinds! Everyone is acquiring everyone and at the end they end up closing it din anyway.
I think I am going to sit this one out and see who survives in the end. I don't need anymore
Ground Floor Opportunities, I already lost respect from sone of my downline.
You guys keep hacking away at each other and throw fuel over the fire. I will check in to see who is left in six months!
Yes correct Wow is off the ground…and "is the leader" and always will be, based on the marketing plan and comp plan.
Soon all will realize that despite a fast start at the derby, launching with one carrier that had a private agenda in some of its red tape divisions to stop the pace setter…the Thoroughbred is "about to… go.. all… the.. way!"
Many wireless reps will go back to Wow for the fastest building down lines (3/free for customers!) and BIG money to go with it. If your smart you would do this NOW!
Its like water…it finds the path of least resistance. Others have "not found" greener grass…and will go back to the lush pastures they once knew…with the news of rain and growth.
Wow ARE Worthy!.., Wow saved distributors who were loyal and listened to , Wow paid pay checks in the drought, Wow are doing their best to make things right…and will!, Wow are good people!.
There is stability of "long term" reliability with Wow…after all who else would have survived the curve balls were given?… Its not about your best shots…its how you can handle the worst !
Wow have the experience to sail the mlm wireless world in the worst storms…what boat are you on ?
I wish the best…and the BEST for all…Wow!
Looks like this guy didn't catch the hint? Call me blue boy in 6 months, I'm they guy still holding his breath waiting for WOW! Don't know when to get off the Titanic like their musicians. Get a life and stop holding your breath, you may want to sell some juice. At least you can get a real product in your hand!
Show your stufff Loyal Hook me up with anyone from WOW. We need to talk. Or just ship my product.
"Many wireless reps will go back to Wow for the fastest building down lines (3/free for customers!) and BIG money to go with it. If your smart you would do this NOW!"
GSM service and phone ordered and paid for 03/23/10 still using my prior carrier.
Darrel Hoover
812-865-0310
All I can say is I have to agree with that, And hey lets see what WOW does
Loyal, who are you? Randy, John, Karla?
If wow is the best, then where are the refunds? They are now selling the Galaxy's on wowmobilemall. the phones we already paid for and can't get or get refunds for. We have to re-buy the phone if we want it and pay $50 more for the tethering. I left Liberty but still keep up with whats going on with them and all the others wireless companies. Still waiting for my refund, which I doubt I'll get. You can't use blackberries with liberty and most people around here love their blackberry's.
I fail to see where liberty is the best. From where I sit, liberty is a company you shouldn't touch with a 10 foot pole.
Troy, I would love your honest opinion about Chris Greco, Is he a good guy or a bad? I see posts on the net going both ways. Just curious.
Pat, I have written several articles on Chris Greco on this blog. Look under Breaking News.
Troy
Didn't find your site until after the post. Wow, listening to the calls on your post as I'm writing this. Many questions answered.
Hey Troy::
This IS a very interesting development. DOES anyone remember or should we say HAS anyone forgotten __someone who WANTS to " monopolize " the MLM Wireless Industry or was it to become the " Saddam Hussein " of the MLM Wireless Industry? Along with everything else happening __
TROY __CAN you please confirm IF Randy Jeffers and WOW Mobile will be activating their GSM phones and services through TsM now? ( just a little something we heard )
QUESTION: :
WITH all these company acquisitions by TsM occurring recently __as a part of TsM, IS there a chance they might ALSO be liable with ANY forthcoming lawsuits? One would think not unless the Principle Former Owners / Founders are made TsM officers and even if NOT __ANY forthcoming lawsuit WOULD surely destroy and do damages to the distributors within TsM coming from all these different companies, wouldn't it? Just INQUIRY for thought.
ON THE TOPIC ZRT:
" __at least one ZRT Founder, had been a former employee of Zoom Mobile, and had copied they distributor database before leaving the company and has made it available to ZRT Mobile for cross solicitation. "
ALSO this may very well be a MAJOR concern for OTHER companies if the reports and / or rumors are true and of course we already KNOW that RUMORS are simply words intended to STIR THE POT __
" __at least one ZRT Founder, may be looking at criminal changes, not just a civil complaint. And if it is proven that ALL the founders of ZRT knew the database was stolen then we may have a criminal conspiracy on our hands. "
ANY OF THIS SOUNDING FAMILIAR TO ANYONE __WHY is this all NOT a surprise?
TODAYS POST directly from MLM Wireless News.com site and the current EIC (editor in charge), whom many have suspicions about and believe may belong to someone else other than the current supposed editor.
Now IS THIS REALLY Big News?
" BREAKING NEWS: ZRT Wireless forms a Strategic Alliance with TechSoft Mobile, TSM will provide products and services for ZRT as Main Vendor. "
" This is a Breaking News Update " __
" ZRT WIRELESS is a reality, That's right, Info has leaked out on the ZRT Temporary site and you can see it here: http://www.ZRTWIRELESS.Webstarts.com At the bottom of the page it says.
(2010 Copyright ZRT Wireless. Products and Services by TechSoft Mobile)
" In the last 30 days, TechSoft has Acquired EXCEL CELLULAR GLOBAL, TRUTH WIRELESS, and is Now the Provider for products and services for ZRT Wireless.. "
HMMMMmmmmm?
Now IF ( some have been confirmed and at least the 1st 2 mentioned so far) this turns out to be a :"coup d'état " __wouldn't ANY lawsuit regarding ZRT bleed over to the MLM Wireless company acquiring their distributors and services?
CLARIFICATION on Question:
IF ZRT is sued by ZOOM and now ZRT is part of TsM along with ECG, Truth Wireless, Freedom Communication and ANY other companies acquired __WOULD TsM become PART OF that impending LAWSUIT? After all, they would be providing services including ZRT and others plus ( if rumor or claim is true ) GSM Services being provided for WOW Mobile?
Chris Greco says:
August 5, 2010 at 1:27 am
Chris Greco has stated on this site he is now " Product Acquisition / International Development @TechSoft Mobile Inc." Yet he also has stated that he is in no way an " Equity Partner " and can not be sued because he's only a paid employee? __
Chris Greco also stated in the exact same post:
" We have NO PENDING LITIGATION AT ALL!! TECHSOFT IS IN NO WAY LIABLE FOR CHRIS GRECO, Because Chris Greco is Not an Equity Partner, I am only a PAID EMPLOYEE of the Company and will continue to be. "
AND YET another of Chris Greco's Posts on August 18, 2010 at 2:08 PM he states:
" __you would be amazed at the companies we are helping."
Helping INTO WHAT __MORE LAWSUITS?
HOW MANY of these RECENTLY Acquired companies are ready to face this along with others? Not to mention the CANADA situation wherein DOES ANYONE KNOW wether or not TsM is LICENSED to do an MLM Business in CANADA ? WHO ARE they going through to get ACTIVATION's when CLEARLY on their website it says CALL SUPPORT for services? Of course BUT __WHO THEN is actually ACCOMPLISHING these activation's and by WHAT MEANS?
Just another of " those " questions we'd want to know IF we were distributors in that particular company which WE ARE NOT and WILL NEVER BE EVEN IF they were the LAST MLM Wireless Company standing. It's ABOUT Principles, Character, Integrity and BEING Honest and Ethical __we simply WOULD NOT EVER!
FOLKS ONLY TIME WILL TELL and we now have 11 more days until the BIG 1st and 2nd of September, 2010 @ 9am in CHAMBERS according to the most recent filing coming from GLOBAL VERGE Document here @ MLM Help Desk.
Keep Up the Great Work Troy – WE THANK YOU!
Semper Fi
Viktoria & Gary Affron
386-438-8056
Clarification on:
" unless the Principle Former Owners / Founders are made TsM officers " __
Meaning those former owners or people within ZRT that were priorly in Zoom Mobile but now connected up and merged with Techsoft Mobile.
Thanks,
Partners
Partners, The Question Should be is Panther Next?
And Further, What would you do? Lastly, TechSoft Mobile is a Provider for ZRT we havent Aquired them, And further, TechSoft Mobile has NO PENDING LITIGATION AGAINST IT, OR ITS PRINCIPAL OWNERS, But nice try, Infact, the more people post on us the more we recruit, because people say let me see what this controversy is about, and then say wow thats some great prices, wow they pay great, Then they sign up, So I want to personally Thank you and Troy for helping us to Recruit and get bigger every day.
Now as for a COOP, nope this has been done in a straight forward manner and none have been hostile takeovers, In fact these companies approached us, As for ZRT we thought it would be good to try and help instead of just acquire another company.
Now my question is this, I know you have alot of time, But truthfully if you focused half your energy in building your business as you do in stiring the pot lol, Panther would be in much better shape, But from what I have heard, Panther could about to be bought out by another company, I wonder who that is………
Good Luck with the Energy Company
CHRIS,
FIRST Let's Be Very Clear Here __
1) Our QUESTIONS and Comments WERE TO TROY specifically and intended information for those Distributors that may have some confusion in all of this as to what is and what is NOT true..
2) The more people that post on YOU the MORE people read about ALL the Controversy YOU HAVE BEEN involved with over the last 10 months. WHO in their RIGHT mind would join ANY company that has such Controversy SPINNING around it __certainly NOT WE or many, many other people we know either.
3) Please RE-Read our post __WHO said anything about " hostile takeovers" OR is there something YET AGAIN that the people DON'T know?
4) Regarding HOW we spend OUR TIME: We are NOT here to give ANYONE our full life story or full life Business Resume. However in the interest of educating you a little bit CHRIS __perhaps you may achieve a few of these ABC's in your life yet to come __who knows?
a) We are both disabled military veterans who proudly served our country.
b) Collectively we both have 5 College Degrees and accolades between us.
c) We've both owned our own companies and have been very successful.
d) We spend our time very productively helping others 12 to 14 hours daily.
e) We are Top Distributors in 3 companies currently.
f) We have been National Distributors in 4 OTHER companies over 20+ years.
ANYTHING ELSE you'd like to know, we invite you to visit our profile on
LinkedIn @ http://www.linkedin.com/in/pimktg
MySpace @ http://www.myspace.com/pimktg
5) CHRIS from what YOU have heard OR __from WHAT you are imagining? Chris you'd better CHECK the person giving you so called FACTS because it's ALL at best WISHFUL thinking on their part and YOURS.
6) Panther Mobile IS NOT being bought out by anyone NOR does ANYONE ELSE
have ANY SHARE in Panther Mobile. NO ONE else's name is listed ON the 100% LEGAL Corporation Documents EXCEPT 100% OWNER Harry Aston.
7) " A man is not necessarily intelligent because he has plenty of ideas, any more than he is a good general because he has plenty of soldiers." – Sebastien-Roch Nicolas de Chamfort
Remember __" When you are right no one remembers; when you are wrong no one forgets." – Irish Proverb
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Chris, your stepping up in the world, you now know how to copy/paste right from the T- Mobile site. You almost had me fooled with the elegant grammar. NOT!
Real Source
Again real source your a dumb ass, Look at my post it says T-Mobile in it, Oh thats right I forgot who I was talking to Global Verge, LOL Man if you guys keep running the company the way you post here your doomed, Oopps, I mean according to Alexa that already happened, Any reason why Globalmobile.com has gone from 119,000 to under 500,000 in the last thirty days, Looks like Buzzirk, Global Mobile 1 and Global Verge are Dead in the Wireless World
Dude, your are an idiot, I didn't say anything about T-Mobile being in your post. I was laughing at you that your post was written correctly, with proper grammar, meaning everyone would know that you didn't write it. As far as Alexa, keep spending money to boost your ranking, the last time I looked Alexa didn't sign anyone up for me and help them to do the same. Global Verge is not just a cell phone company, even though I love my Evo, we offer a membership with a variety of products and services in multiple divisions. Oh yea, I called Verizon and T-Mobile and asked for the famous Greco, they replied "who the hell is he" you must be trying to reach 800-841-1588 call it, and you will get your laugh for the day. Lite-n-up Chris.
Real Source
When companies do not start right, and try to short cut the legal side of things, it does not help anyone. Since Matt Davis is not a part, nor has he ever been a part of the ownership of Zoom, it doesn’t matter what he may have wrote.????
… So everyone that gave Matt Davis 1000 bucks while he preached he was VP of Zoom Mobile was what then? Theft by swindle? Misrepresentation? CAN YOU EXPLAIN….? OR MAYBE YOU DONT KNOW IF ITS RIGHT OR WRONG? JUST SO THE DISTRIBUTORS KNOW THE TRUTH AS YOU CLAIM. THE EASY QUESTION IS WHO,S LIEING? WHAT DOES IT MEAN WHEN A PERSON CLAIMS TO BE ZOOM MOBILE VP END UP ON THE Papers posted on the Florida Department of State Division of Corperations. Well I guess that Matt according to there first hand knowledge man, did not do his homework? Who do you think signed it? That's right Davis did. Now once again this needs to stop run your company don't worry about us as our products go way beyond the cell phone and its plans. We are taking steps to make sure we are incompliance with the appropriate liscenses, registrations, making sure the good ole irs will be happy . Again GOOD LUCK ZOOM AND GEORGE WHY IN THE WORLD WOULD CARE IF I HAD AN MLM COMPANY BUILT FROM SCRATCH? DIDN'T MICROSOFT START IN A GARAGE? ITS NOT LIKE THEY ARE GOING TO RUN OUT OF MINUTES, REALLY HONESTLY THERE IS PLENTY TO GO AROUND. HOWS YOUR SPOTS IN REVOLUCION DOING? THE SAME ONES SIGNED UP UNDER ME. HOW CAN YOU TELL PEOPLE YOU ARE WATCHING ZRT, WORKING REVOLUCION (WHICH MIND YOU IS A AWESOME COMPANY AND AN AWESOME PRODUCT) AND DEALING WITH ZOOM MOBILE ECT THAT YOUR 100% DEDICATED TO YOUR COMPANY? QUIT WORRYING ABOUT US IM SURE THE INDUSTRY WILL QUICKLY LET US KNOW WHEN WE REALLY DO SOMETHING WRONG IF WE MAKE A MISTAKE. YOU CAN GO BACK TO WORK AND YOU DONT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT US. I CAN GUARENTEE YOU THIS THE MORE YOU DIG THE DEEPER THE HOLE GETS MAKE SURE ITS NOT IN YOUR OWN BACK YARD. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE DOCUMENTATION OF ANY ONE THAT OWNS ANY PART OF ZRT HAS STOLEN ANY DATA BASE AND BROUGHT IN REPS USING SUCH A METHOD. THE ONLY ONE THAT EVER TOOK ANY JOB WITH ZOOM MOBILE WOULD HAVE BEEN LYNN SANDERS AS LINDA CALLED HER. IF YOU HIRED HER PLEASE SHOW THE WORLD A COPY OF ANY SUCH CONTRACT ANY OF THE PROPER FORMS MAKING HER A FORMER EMPLOYEE OF ZOOM THINGS LIKE A COPY OF A PAYCHECK, ID FORMS, TAX FORMS ECT. OR AS PAUL HARVEY SAYS "…THE REST OF THE STORY" SHE DID AGREE TO TAKE A POSISTION AS LINDAS PERSONAL ASSISTANT SHE WAS PUT IN CHARGE OF CALLING PEOPLE UP TO SEE IF THIER PHONE WORKED AND A SILLY JOB OF REMOVING COMAS IN THIS HUGE LIST. AFTER ASKING FOR THE PROPER FORMS TO BE FILLED OUT AND NOT GETTING THEM SHE RESIGNED YOU WILL EASILY BE ABLE TO SEE EXACTLY WHEN THE LAST TIME SHE ENTERED ANY INFORMATION, THE LAST TIME SHE WAS EVER ON THE SITE, ECT COMPARE THAT TO PHONE RECORDS ISP NUMBERS, TIME STAMPS, WHO ACTUALLY ON THE PHONE SHEETS IS IN OUR COMPANY IF ANY AS I WOULD NEED A DATA BASE TO COMPARE IT TO TO SEE IF THIS WAS REALLY HAPPENING. AND YOU WILL SEE ONCE AGAIN MORE LIES. WILL GLADLY FORWARD EMAILS ASKING ME TO SPY ON LINDA SO HE COULD GET HER FIRED, THE EMAILS ABOUT SOME OF HIS REPS AND HOW HE TALKS ABOUT SOME OF THEM IS SAD AGAIN WILL GLADLY POST THE ORIGINAL EMAILS ON A WEB PAGE IF YOU WISH. HOW FAR OUT OF THE WAY DO YOU WANT TO GO? ZRT WILL GO AS FAR AS IT NEEDS TO PROTECT ITS IDEAS AND ITS MEMBERS SPEND YOUR FOUNDER MONEY ON YOUR BUSINESS OR GIVE IT TO THE LAWYERS EITHER WAY IS FINE BY US. ITS 4:30 AM TIME TO DRINK SOME COFFEE AND GET READY FOR ANOTHER DAY OF PHONE CALLS AND MY WORKDAY ISNT DONE UNTILL AROUND MIDNITE AGAIN A SIGN OF MY DEDICATION TO DOING THIS RIGHT. BY THE WAY….
The phony lawsuit is a form of extortion. The victims very seldom come forward because they fear addressing the issue will cause them more damage and certainly put them into the position of spending money on legal fees. The victim is shamed into accepting abuse. {NOT HAPPENING HERE}
Fraud or extortion better describes the actions of an unethical attorney who places a lawsuit that has no merit against another person.
The attorney hides behind his normally privileged actions knowing that the self disciplinary process of the bar associations do not address disputes in the filing of cases. MMMMMM AGAIN IM NOT ASKING FOR YOU TO LEAVE US ALONE IM SERIOUSLY TELLING YOU THIS WE HIGHLY RECOMMEND YOU DO. SINCE YOU PRETEND TO REACH OUT TROY AND YOU HAVE YET TO RETURN MY CALL I WILL GLADLY POST SCREEN SHOTS OF ANYTHING I HAVE SAID FOR PROOF ISSUES. ALSO TROY DID YOU EVER HAVE A SPOT IN WOW? JUST CURIOUS IF WHAT I READ IS TRUE.. I DIDNT WRITE THIS JUST REPEATING WHAT I READ AND IM ASKING FOR CLARIFICATION REASONS. ITS STATED YOU HAD A SPOT IN WOW UNDER YOUR DAUGHTERS NAME? NOT SURE WHAT THAT MEANS….. BY THE WAY WHEN A POLICEMAN PUTS ON HIS UNIFORM HE'S WHAT? A COP WHEN A FOUNDER WEARS A FOUNDERS SHIRT HE'S WHAT? A FOUNDER CORRECT? SO ARE YOU A FOUNDER? HOW CAN YOU WEAR A FOUNDERS SHIRT FROM ONE COMPANY WHILE BASHING OTHERS? MMMMMMMM TASTEFULL? I THINK NOT. ARE YOU ALLOWING ONE COMPANY THAT YOU SEEM TO BE A FOUNDER IN GROW BY BASHING OTHERS MMMMMMM WHEN YOU WANT ACTUALL FACTS BACKED WITH EVIDENCE
WE MAY ENTERTAIN THE IDEA OF EVER SPEAKIING TO YOU BETTER YET AS YOU MAKE THE BOLD STATEMENT OF…..".I HAVE FIRST HAND KNOWLEDGE" WHILE WEARING A FOUNDER SHIRT WELL IM PRETTY SURE YOU WILL STAND A GOOD CHANCE THAT YOU WILL BE SERVED PAPERS ALSO THEN YOU CAN REALLY JOIN THE PARTY. TRY THE UNTWISTED TRUTH FOR AWHILE YOU HAVE OUR COUNTRY FLAG BEHIND YOU FOR CRYING OUT LOAD HAVE A LITTLE RESPECT FOR IT HANG THE CONSTITUTION NEXT TO IT AND ACTUALLY READ IT.
TJ,
Excellent questions. Since I am not part of Zoom nor was I present at any Zoom meeting, public or private I can only answer the general questions.
1 As a VP of Zoom anything Matt Davis might have said on behalf of the company would be binding to some extent on the company. If Matt accepted funds on behalf of the company and potential founders signed a binding Founders Agreement then both parties are bound by the Agreement.
Are you stating Matt Davis took money intended for Zoom from potential founders who signed founders agreements, then never reported it to Zoom HQ?
2. The Paperwork Filed with the Florida Dvi. Of Corporations does not show ownership. They only list officers of the company. I have been an officer in several companies and never owned a dime of equity in the company. I have also formed several corporations and was listed as a officer and never owned a dime. So just because we see Matt's name does not make him an owner.
3. As for you or anyone else having spots in Revoulcion. I already talked with Derek Broes and none of the players in this saga have any active positions in Revoulcion.
4. So TJ, are you saying one of your staff has or has not been employed with Zoom? Your statement is a little confusing. If you have someone who has worked for Zoom then have they publicly state what Zoom purports is. Bold face lie and post it.
If you do not have anyone who has ever had access to Zoom's database then why not protect your brand and sue then for tortuous interference of business?
5. I am not sure what you mean when you talk about victims. As someone who deals in the justice system helping abused women and children, your statement does hold merit. However when dealing in the civil side it does not. If you or anyone else believes they are victims of extortion then come forward and speak up. File the federal or state lawsuit to protect your rights.
Otherwise this just looks like a ploy to point at Zoom because you don't want the eyeballs looking at you
6. As for me having a spot in WOW that has also been publicly addressed. And TJ we don't know each other at all so I will give you the benefit of a doubt that you are asking an innocent question.
But with a little due diligence you can quickly find I am the last person you want to bring into this little drama. Especially if you want to bring my minor children into the mix. You're best to keep focused on building your company and figuring out if Zoom has legal grounds to fight you.
7. Not at all clear on the founder issue. If you are talking directly at me with that comment. I have never worn any shirt which states Founder of anything. If you are talking about the shirts I wear when I shoot videos then you need to watch more videos. I wear the brand of the company we are reviewing.
As for bashing any company. We don't bash, we ask some hard questions and hold ALL companies to a high ethical standard of excellence.
8. As for the threat of any legal action feel free. Have your attorney send any official paperwork directly to my attorney Kevin Thompson. He can be contacted at TheMLMAttorney.com he will handle it from there.
9. TJ since Greco is one of your consultants you may want to talk to him before pissing me off. I think he will explain I publish what is given to us from both sides. I have your emails and Todd's emails. You do have a review which I can promise you will go live this were. It will include all you have written and some of what you have written here.
It will also give my opinion on if I believe there needs to be a Scam alert posted on ZRT or not!
I think Terry is upset because of the post that a Lawsuit was going to happen, When that is the Farthest from the truth, After what Terry has shown me, I would not want any of that coming out.
Troy after reading some of these emails I think Zoom should answer some of your Questions, and maybe that of Randy at WOW.
You tell me, I mean we all know I was raked over the coals here, And Terry probably feels the same way, The only difference is Terry has DOCUMENTED EMAIL EVIDENCE, Big Difference from what I said Troy, You always ask for Proof, or back things up, You have the Email, Have you asked Matt Davis about this, And what was the Answer, Because I think the Distributors deserve to know, Thats what this is all about right Troy? Its about getting the info out there.
I hear Amanda over at http://www.mlmwirelessnews.com is going to be asking some very pointed questions about this, Terry has already been interviewed, No response from ZOOM, it should be interesting, I just want the Facts and the Truth out there on this matter either way.
Chris
Chris,
As you know I am always open to receiving documentation we can trace and verify. If Terry has documentation then he can send it and we will publish. If he feels that it is safer to publish at MLM Wireless News so be it.
Hey Troy,
Although there must be an obvious reason for everthing __this question has been asked already many times over and if not at least in some way questioned as to the " why" of.
Since when has this highly regarded, respected site and Troy Dooly allowing the ongoing promo's and advertisments of the ONE business to be ongoing? Could it be the MORE this person talks the MORE the bots catch on to key phrases or key words therefore making investigating easier OR __could it be that sooner or later this " particular " person will get caught in reversing their words and to what extent hasn't already?
Whatever it is, we regard you great site here as a Discussion Forum and NOT for others to PROMO and ADVERTISE their business and what they have to offer. MAYBE __there SHOULD BE SOME guildelines as to posting links and words PROMOTING ANY one business to keep it FAIR and BALANCED for those that in truth want to discusss ONLY the issues and NOT be AMBUSHED by any one other person's business promos?
Just our thoughts on the matter as it keeps on growing bigger and bigger every time. There is NO harm in someone stating they're happy with their business on an APPROPRIATE post and in an APPROPRIATE professional fashion. HOWEVER __it DOES SEEM as if just ONE person is getting a LOT OF FACE and STAGE time PROMOTING just one busines here NO matter WHICH company and / or business you're trying to post good information on for the distributors.
We hope these things WILL change very soon as such just keeps things moving onward and into an infinity the likes of not many want to see continue beyond a certain point. It becomes UNproductive at some point when the discussions veer off into just one isse while others goe unoticed and not reported on to the extent the interruptions on each and every post are coming from the one SAME person!
Semper Fi
Chirs Grecco Has NOOOOOOOOOO Inside scoop with Zoom Mobile.
He is in no position to determine if Zoom Mobile will or will not be placing any file suite against Terry Anders.
Chris Greccos teams little Boot leg web site mlmwirelessnews.com is a bigger joke than he is. They have no power in this industry.
Chris, your a MORON !! The Corp staff would probably go play in traffic while being blind folded after being spun 1000 times before that waisted there time speaking with you!
Your of no importance in this matter nor in this world. At the end of the day, the dealings would be with Terry Anders and George Burton!
You need to play your position as a SCAMMER and let the big boys handle their business.
Your a joke KID !
Kid again your mis informed, I am a Very Big MAN, at least that's what I have been told, LOL anyway, look http://www.mlmwirelessnews.com is not my website. But nice try, Wish it was have you seen the growth on that site, More and More people are going there for their Wireless News info.
I am far from a MORON, I am extremely calculated, and I think things out way in advance, wait till you see the next move I make, Its like a Picasso, LOL.
As for George Burton, Don't know him, But I did talk to an Android Development company that ZOOM Used, What they have to say will shake this industry, Can't wait for the truth to come out on that " We spent thousands and thousands of dollars in these programs" their words on their calls not mine, Actually they spent 99.00 for one of the apps, LOL….
Better make sure you do your research your about to get burned
Chris,
Just a suggestion… I would walk softly on this one! George Burton is not the typical MLM CEO. When it comes to BRAND protection I would rank him side by side with Derek Broes.
And if Derek is an indication, eFusjon is leaving MLM and Revolucion is growing and about to announce a HUGE category creating creating product.
For your distributor's sake I would make sure you have all the facts and original documents to backup anything you state.
So Troy's a Founder because he wears a Zoom Mobile Polo shirt? What a joke… TJ if the lawsuit is "phony" then take action against it, simple as that. I will be following closely as I work side by side with corporate. Am actually having dinner with George Burton and Linda Helin tonight to discuss different things about and within the company, all good of course. I CAN'T WAIT to see the review on ZRT. Do what you do Troy.
Nick Schycker – Zoom Founder
TROY, THANKS FOR YOUR WORDS OF WISDOM.. AS PER YOUR YOUR STATEMENT YOUR 100% CORRECT WE DONT KNOW EACH OTHER AND MY QUESTION WAS ASKED ABOUT WOW ONLY TO CLEAR WHAT I WAS TOLD ABSOLUTLEY ZERO DISRESPECT FOR ANY MEMBER OF YOUR FAMILY PERIOD. NOW AFTER THAT BEING SAID.. I APPRECIATE YOUR SOUND RESPONSE STATING tortuous interference of business THATS REALLY NOT A BAD IDEA TO ENTERTAIN THE THOUGHT OF ENTERTAINING SUCH A THOUGHT. ALLIANCES ARE REALLY THE WAY TO GO INSTEAD OF THE NASTY ROAD WOULD NOT YOU AGREE? WE AT ZRT HAVE JUST NOW AT THIS MOMENT HAVE COME TO THIS CONCLUSION, ANY AND ALL ISSUES WILL NOW BE HANDLED BY A LEGAL TEAM FROM THIS POINT ON. GOOD DAY TROY GOD BLESS AND THE TRUTH WILL PREVAIL HANDS DOWN.
ZRT __
NO Offense Intended but __PLEASE STOP typing in ALL CAPS! It's difficult for EVERYONE to read and make sense of PLUS it's not good NETIQUETTE. Don't know if people know this but when you type in ALL CAPS >>> It's LIKE YELLING at people you're typing to. Don't HURT other people's eyes please.
The ONLY reason we've typed ANYTHING in CAPS is to emphasize the importance of it and and nothing more. We're sure you have your own GOOD points to make and these MLM Wireless Wars are WAY OUT of hand. ALL the issues ARE a matter for ATTORNEY's to handle in ALL companies and NOT for the Distributors to GET INTO COMPANY POLITICS! That's what CORPORATES and Company Attorney's are for and NOT the Distributors.
Once the Distributors in ANY Company GET INTO company POLITICS – the INTENSITY of the battle OVER SHOOTS the war and NO ONE wins!
Parteners
OOOPS I should have learned to type thanks for the advice.
ZRT __
No problem __Just wanted to put that out here about ALL CAPS. This is not about your typing ability at all. You're NOT the only one that types in ALL CAPS, ha! Some do it because as they've told us, they can't see themselves so in the interest of being able to read their own words they type in ALL CAPS, ha!
You're doing fine, so no worries!
Viktoria & Gary Affron
Phone: 386-438-8056
And since you have opened the mouth…let see the e-mails and screen shots
Or does this sound like the angry clowns (aka doom) vs Blogojevich…
If this does not go to court your all pathetic, perhaps anger counseling
I dont think there is a problem with that I am sure Terry will post them, Further the Email is posted at http://www.mlmwirelessnews.com you can see it there, and feel free to track it back and verify it
CHRIS,
Stop trying to promote your teams bootleg site!
CHRIS GECCO = SCUM, SCAMMER, IMP, SWINDLER, HOOLIGAN and MORON !!
Not looking for Exposure, SCUM, COWARD, AFRAID OF HIS OWN COMPANY , NA NA NA NAAA BOO BOO STICK YOUR HEAD IN DOO DOO…. LOL …. Really so we must be on the Play Ground, I hope you can attend the event this weekend would love to debate you publicly, Oh thats right your a coward,
Wowee ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Shakes Head and Ponders What Tomorrow Will Bring?
Back to Work Folks and __
*** Thowing Knives Carelessly is a Form of Murderous Intent.
*** When BOTH Sides Fight to Win …Someone Will Lose.
*** CHOOSE Your Battles Wisely or Take Your Ball and Go Home.
*** KNOW WHEN to Lay Down Your Sword and Stop the Bloodshed.
*** NO ONE Person Wins a Battle They Started Themselves.
GOD Bless the Land of Freedom and GOD Bless You All!
Viktoria & Gary Affron
386-438-8056
Troy what Matt Davis said doesn't matter? Really, Have you heard the recorded calls, where this guy is suppose to be the VP his Voice?
Ok, Either way the email I read SHOWS disturbing things, Have you asked Matt Davis about this?
And Troy lets be 100% above board here if this was me that had an email like that out there there would be a five part series on how I did something wrong
Chris,
Based on the content of the first comment which was in part stating that Matt had some form of ownership in Zoom and was accountable based on that aspect. As an officer of the company he has a fiduciary responsibility for his words and actions.
As for the email, I have not yet seen the original email with the header showing where the email came from in the first place.
Ill forward the email to you today, or do you need it from Terry, You let me know.
Either or both
Hey Troy,
Could it be THIS is the one CG is talking about (below)? Everyone that has ANY savvy internet experience KNOWS that Instant Messages on messengers like Yahoo, Skype, MSN, Windows Live and others can be copied and pasted and then WORDS CHANGED to benefit or suit the person copying them and sharing them with someone else for whatever reason and MOSTLY out of spite, greed or vindictiveness to make themselves LOOK better.
THE SAME can be accomplished in eMails and for that matter, COULD BE the case in this eMail being talked about SUPPOSEDLY from Matthew Davis. It's NOT that difficult a task to CHANGE WORDS UP so they LOOK LIKE something else rather than the ORIGINAL SCRIPT in the ORIGINAL eMail.
HERE IS WHERE WE ALL SHOULD QUESTION the VALIDITY of the eMail POSTED at MLM Wireless News and being discussed here at MLM Help Desk. THIS specific eMail TOO could've had the WORDS CHANGED to SUIT someone else! We ALL KNOW this happens! SO __
FOLKS pay attention BEFORE you go believing EVERYTHING you read on OTHER sites!
Here is the SUPPOSED eMail:
From: Matthew Davis
Subject: Re: phones? mike storms video?
To: "TERRY ANDERS"
Date: Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 9:22 PM
GREAT NEWS!!!! We are making headway fast! Gear up for this TJ!!! GEORGE is a (edited out by Viktoria – obscene wording) wiz. He can get into Liberty through my back office. We are looking at their whole structure!!!
Of course IF this came from a VP of ANY one company, MLM Wireless Wars or NOT __again this SHOULD NOT have been handled WITHOUT TOTAL ALLEGIANCE and SECURITY between the people conversing IN PRIVATE without at least making SURE this WOULD NOT fall into the WRONG hands BUT at this juncture and with all the battles __guess one could say it IS what it IS!
Semper Fi
OH guess when we copied and pasted the eMail posted over @ MLM Wireless News the actual eMail addresses didnt come through and here's hoping AMANDA or WHOMEVER over @ MLM Wireless News HAD permissions to REPRINT this eMail online:
From: Matthew Davis
Subject: Re: phones? mike storms video?
To: "TERRY ANDERS"
Date: Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 9:22 PM
GEEZ! What a mess for everyone involved but ESPECIALLY the DISTRIBUTORS! ANYONE whose been involved with MLM or Direct Sales over the years with ANY experience at all and ESPECIALLY the CORPORATES and Legal Attorneys KNOW that it's NOT KOSHER to REPRINT without permission NOR is it legal.
Let alone the HARM it does to the DISTRIBUTORS. Here again it's a matter for CORPORATES and COMPANY ATTORNEY's and NOT the Distributors. When these things happen OUT IN THE OPEN such as this __the company is NOT protected NOR are the Distributors. These type things FORCE CANCER's into the DOWNLINES that are usually NOT recuperable for some time to come if ever.
FOLKS >>> If we could give ONE good piece of advice for ALL Distributors: STAY OUT of COMPANY POLITICS and let those at Corporate and the Company Attorney's HANDLE whatever issues there are to handle. This isn't saying that Distributors don't have a RIGHT to KNOW __it's saying that the WARS and BATTLES of all time that are happening NOW are a DIRECT RESULT of INFO LEAKING that NEVER SHOULD HAVE happened at all!
Distributors in ANY company HAVE A RIGHT TO KNOW as far as ANY ONE THING affecting them and THEIR business. It's just NOT EVER WISE for the CORPORATES and DISTRIBUTORS to get into ARUGABLE CIRCUMSTANCES and then __EVERYTHING gets BLOWN OUT of porportion for EVERYONE and NO ONE WINS this way.
Semper Fi Troy – Keep up the GREAT Work You Always Do!
Oops, okay here it is, it didn't come through again but this time it will hopefully!
From: Matthew Davis (wowmobilewireless@yahoo.com)
Subject: Re: phones? mike storms video?
To: "TERRY ANDERS" (tjenterprises2003@yahoo.com)
Date: Tuesday, January 26, 2010, 9:22 PM
THIS IS what it REPRINTED over @ MLM Wireless News. We put in parenthesis so hopefully it does come through this time and if not, we give up, ha!
Semper Fi Troy
Viktoria,
What always amazes me is the fact, no one ever posts the complete email header info. If you remember back when I posted all of Greco's emails to me, and then I posted my email responses, I made sure we showed the header so folks could see it the headers had not been forged.
I always refuse to post random info, without knowing for sure whats up. In this case I do have it from a reliable source the TJ had personal access to Matt's email account due to their long term friendship and association, and may have been writing these emails perosnally and sending them to himself.
It all goes as planned I'll do a video or live interview with someone on the inside close to the situation who will shed some light on whats going on between TJ and Matt.
Personally, I do not think this involves Zoom at all, more of a personal issue.
We'll see.
Troy,
We couldn't agree more! As previously posted, just about anyone can take an instant message or an eMail and literally CHANGE everything about it including:
– From:
– To:
– Subject Lines:
– Body of eMail:
– Names:
– Comments
YOU NAME IT __it CAN be changed and in fact, SOME people go the lenth to CREATE faux eMail addresses in gMail, Yahoo and others for this EXACT PURPOSE!
There's a neat little thing in Incredimail a DEFAULT eMail service where one can click on FILE and then on PROPERTIES and FIND OUT EXACTLY the ORIGINATION of the eMail, the SERVER used to process it, WHO EXACTLY sent it AND __(believe it or not) the EXACT IP ADDRESS it was sent from!
NOT so amazing in THIS world of technology BUT __EXACTING for sure!
We've even had people CHANGE OUR WORDS in Instant Messenging and people SEND THEM BACK to us ONLY to find out they're NOT the EXACT words we typed in the first place.
This is WHY it's ALWAYS a GOOD IDEA when using Skype, Yahoo or ANY OTHER form of instant messenging to COPY WHAT YOU TYPE to anyone else. This way you HAVE a RECORD of what you said and IF it comes back to you in any other way __YOU KNOW it's been CHANGED and WHO changed it!
Again, THAT TOO IS NOT ALWAYS reliable because DISPUTING WORDS TYPED from computer to computer or eMail server to eMail server are NOT ALWAYS reliable. Take for example ALL the fraudulent eMails sent SUPPOSEDLY from Pay Pal and other sources of otherwise reliable online business's or individuals. IT HAPPENS DAILY!
BEST ADVICE: IF you are having a conversation that MAY BE argumentative or in ANY way compromising your own credibility or that of opinion – DO IT BY PHONE or IN PERSON and NOT via eMail or Instant Message!
FOLKS: BE VERY AWARE of WHO you do business with and WHO YOU REPLY in eMails to __they MAY NOT BE who you think they are and they MAY NOT BE WHAT you think they are!
Semper Fi Troy – Great Reply – Can't Wait for the NEWEST BREAKING NEWS Here!
Viktoria & Gary Affron
Phone: 386-438-8056
WOW Troy, I got to hand it to you on this one, Really? Really? are you f'ing kidding me… Now your going to say TJ wrote the emails from Matts email to himself, Come on, get real Troy, let me guess ZOOM Is crapping themselves over these emails so let talk to our good buddy Troy and say what it is, If I ever said that you would laugh my ass off the internet…
You have to be kidding, me, Hey maybe there is a new type of KoolAide being made these days.
I got to say I am really starting to see a whole new view here… I guess I need to just do what I do, Protect my guys and hey sorry if your in the way..
It sucks Troy, So becuase TJ wants to be honest with you and bring this forward you basically SH** on him..
I have to say, I am at best shocked, But again from my own experience shouldn't be surprised.
All I am saying is if TJ Provides his evidence Be fair, I mean, It does make other companies think about talking to you Troy, when you take stances and make wild claims, Like TJ Sent emails from MATTs box are you kidding, What EVIDENCE do you have of this, And let me guess Matt said this.
I am going to Enjoy this battle, this summer and fall, Let me tell you ZRT is the Least of ZOOM Mobile's Worries they better worry about WOW, I heard from a Little birdy that it could get really messy here. And hey I hear WOW is doing Well ZRT is getting off the Ground, Who Knows what will happen, I will say this, I will do whatever I need to to protect my guys, ALL OF THEM, COMPANIES and DISTRIBUTORS. And you know I am not scared of a lawsuit. So for all parties involved learn to play nice or this could get messy really fast.
Wish everyone the Best of luck Ill be waiting for you at the finish line.
Chris,
I was very specific in what I wrote. It did not have anything to do with TJ.
Why do you feel I was talking about TJ? And Zoom has nothing to do with Matt Davis's email account, so what does Zoom have to do with this issue, outside of the fact the published email, which in court would be 3rd party mentions their name. I guess Matt Davis could be subpoenaed and asked to disclose if what is purported he wrote was the truth or just fabrication. But first it will have to be determined if he wrote it, and that will take a forensic security expert. Not cheap but well worth it in a civil or criminal matter.
By the way, it is not KoolAide it is called the use of "Critical Thinking" instead of supposition to find the logical conclusion. It is not a matter of he said, she said, it is about getting all the facts before passing judgement one way or another.
I still find it interesting that you feel I have in someway caused issues for TJ. If a person is going to make a public allegation, then they should be willing to answer the hard questions. In this case, I have been very clear, without seeing the complete email header and tracking the path backwards people should be slow to pass judgment. this email will not be accepted in any court of law without the complete email header attached, and even then, one side or another will ask that it be thrown out unless a forensic expert can validate that the email really did come from email server "A" holding Matt Davis's email account, and was sent to email server "B" housing TJ's email account.
Chris, to make an allegation that I have not been fair with you, is humorous. I've given you nothing but straightforward communication, and I believe everyone in this community knows it.
Every comment you have ever posted went live, and all the posts of your supporters have gone live. Unlike some websites where I post and the comments never go live, we do not do that here.
I am always fair. But the evidence has to be untainted and verifiable.
Chris, what stance have I taken in this case… YET?
What "Wild Claim" have I taken?
Matt said what? I have not talked to Matt, except once which was before this email issue was made public on any site.
Keep us posted!
Pat G I would have replied on your post but had no option, Look, All I can tell you is if you want to know about what the Wireless Industry thinks of me, Contact the companies directly, T-Mobile, Urge, Simple Mobile, Page Plus, Verizon, AT&T, then you will know, As for WOW Mobile they are back on track, And are activating phones daily with unlimited everything.
I will say this, If I am behind you I am like standing behind a Pit Bull, I will protect you and your business to the best of my ability and fight for you till the end, If you are my opposition, well then your my opposition,
I have had to learn not to try and crush everyone else, its been hard no doubt, But if you want someone behind you that is about the reps and companies he supports, Then I am your guy.
If you are a WOW Mobile rep I see good things for WOW Mobile and I think they are just hitting the road to one of the biggest comebacks in MLM History.
Hope your ready
Don't waiste your time feeding into GRECCOS Lies.
He acts is if he's bigger than he really is.
As for an inside source I know a few gew gentleman that helped him and his girl friend move into their newest TRAILER out here in Florida.
Now im sure he'll come back and try to rebuddle this, but he knows the truth.
Chris Gecco is a BROKE, LIEING Son of a gun.
Why is it that EVERYTHING HE TOUCHES, never comes to provision? This guy is a JOKE !!
—————— Now to Terry Anders ————– You need to cut ties with this clown and save what little ( if any ) respect you may still have.
Chris Greccos name get no more respect than Jeffery Dahmers in this world. Why in the world would you want to link up with this class clown?
This clown spends more time trying to defend his lies than he does putting in work!
I remeber a few months ago when he was on a BOGUS Excell cellular Communications call trying to tell all the reps that he was on the golf course with 2 state senators just to find out that it was only 2 of the main guys on top with Excell !!
(( NOW AS FOR THAT LAST STATEMENT, THIS IS THE PART WHERE LIES ABOUT IT AS USUAL ))
Now I could personally give two rats ( ) about Chris Grecco But I do care about all the future reps that are about to fall into his lies!!
————-
Chris Grecco,
Why are you spending your time focusing on Matt Davis? Atleast everything he said he was going to do he Did. Your a Joke and you always will be. Your a coward and a con artist. Im willing to bet that your so bad you've probably even picked your own pocket before by accident then turned around and got excited because the face on the ID looked like you!
I would'nt be suprised If we catch you shoveling S( ) somewhere in these next few months and then turning around trying to convince people that that's the new cure for cancer.
— Troy —-
You should add a page on site that's simply titled *SCAMMER*
Then Start it off by loading up CHRIS GECCO as the pack leader!
Ok, First i'm going to say your you must be ashamed of what you belong to, Or maybe you decided to stay when I left, But you sound like a Global Pros rep that is mad at the Recent decline of where you are.
Your Right as for spending time focusing on matt davis, But if this was about me, You would be doing just that, Its a double edged sword, Sucks doesn't it?
I have produced EVERYTHING I said I would at TechSoft Mobile, I couldn't do this at other companies, because either owners were greedy, they were commiting fraud, or they were using a fake name, So thats what it is, I know people are going to be mad at TechSoft Mobile, ZRT, and WOW Mobile Success, Get over it, Oh and by the way I live in South Carolina not Florida, And no I don't reside in a trailer, But hey you make that sound bad, are you putting down all the good network marketers that live in a trailer? Thats not right in my opinion but thats what it sounds like, I hope Global Pros, and or Zoom the company you belong too doesnt have that same view, you would lose alot of reps, As for not looking for exposure, Your a coward, I mean, I am me here, like all the rest of our reps, The only people that hide behind aliases are those afraid of being called out later for being in THAT opportunity, So what one is it for you that your scared to be linked with… LOL…..
As for Golfing, I suck and can't play, Hockey well now you woulnd't want to see 275lbs of 6 feet 5 inch me on the ICE, In fact that is where I made my money to get into the wireless business, Oh thats right you didn't do your research, No surprise there.
Am I a pack leader, YES… A LEADER OF COMPANIES THAT ARE WINNERS….
What company are you with, Oh thats right you don't want to be linked with them. Well hey either way I wish you the best of luck, I will continue to do what I do at these companies, and watch as they all succeed and you can sit on the side line.
Back to golf, I was on the course with Tim Scott's Aide that day, He is the Black Republican running here in South Carolina, and we were talking, And yes we support him.. So there now you have it, The only other time I have been on a Golf Course was with Ron Williams from Global Pros as we watched the Verizon Heritage tournament.
So hope that clears that up.
Hey you are more than welcome to get up and come see me in Columbia this weekend, I would be more than happy to meet you…. 🙂
As for defending lies, There is nothing to defend, I work my ass of for my reps, hence the travel to the events, and calls four times a day, Does your company do that. Hey want don't you come on down to my house to see where I really live, See that I am here right on the water, enjoying life and building my business, And then maybe you will get a different perspective, Or you can continue (HATING) and stay on the sidelines and watch you business fail, like every other one in this business.
Again I wish everyone here the best of luck with their businesses, With what is about to come down from the carriers you are going to need it.
so contact me come on over have a beer, and meet my 7 pit bulls, they are sweethearts.
chris@unlimitedwizard.com
In closing, we are off the charts right now view alexa.com do a comparison with PHP Lightyear, ZOOM, Global Pros, You will see we are on TOP..
Then do one with Monavie and Vemma, This might raise your eyebrows, as we are bringing in so many here that we are about to pass both of those companies on the WEB.. Doesnt hurt to have the best Site Design SEO guy in the business either..
Good luck
Thanks Chris,
I was just curiious. I don't know you personally so I take what i read about you with a grain of salt because I really don't know. I just read posts of different sites that are on both sides of the coin. The posts that are good say you are accomplishing what you set out to do. That's great. I wish you the best.
Right now I'm not doing anything but watching, reading, and researching.
My main dream is to own a campground designed for regular camping with half set up to cater to the handicap. My Aunt is handicapped and she wants to go camping with us all the time and getting over roots, grass, and dirt is real hard pushing a wheelchair around. I got to thinking about all the handicapped people out there that would love to go camping but don't because of how the campgrounds are. I found a couple of campgrounds that do have sections for handicapped but I want to set something up so they can go anywhere in the campground. Get some wheelchairs you can push into water. Set up a pool for it. Would love a lake and figure out a way for them to go swimming in the lake. So many ideas.
I know mlm is the ticket to making the money to quit my job and to get something like this going. Buy some land.Build a small campground to start and let the campers need determine what and how to expand.
But right now as far as the wireless, I know that's my ticket but for some reason, somethings making me just sit and wait for now.
Hey Pat G.,
Sounds like you have a real passion for your dreams in helping others and that's always a great thing. Sometimes we all meet people online that for whatever reason don't turn out to be who we think they are or are at best very questionable. We've personally seen this over and over again since the internet opps began back in the late 80's. Please realize that NOT everyone is your Best Best Friend online.
You really MUST get to know a person, build a relationship and THEN decide if it's a friendship worth keeping and at what risk to you personally, your credibility and your goals and dreams. NOT everything IS at it seems and you MUST be VERY CAREUL WHO you set up shop with in business.
Pat, you don't have to read to far to find out about SOME personalities. There are ways to research them online, just type the word SCAM out beside their name in your Google or Yahoo Search Engine. DO THIS EVERY TIME BEFORE you consider ANY business or DOING business with ANY one personality.
FACT: Online relationships ARE NOT THE SAME and NEVER WILL BE THE SAME as meeting YOUR nextdoor neighbor! THINK about how well you know someone you meet online. By and large a NEW friend connect online COULD BE anyone. SOME usually DO and CAN get away with telling you EXACTLY what YOU WANT to hear __therein lies the CAUTION!
IF YOU CAN'T confirm the person you're attempting to build a relationship __steer clear UNTIL YOU CAN! DON'T get caught up in all the FLUFF and HYPE that happens online. It only serves to set you back and WITH the BEAUTIFUL GOALS and DREAMS you have __there ARE BETTER things to do than ANY ONE thing someone YOU DON'T KNOW wants you to believe in if ONLY to benefit themselves and ALL __at YOUR expense!
IF you don't have at least a few years under your belt in internet marketing – FIND SOMEONE who does and ASK THEM. THEN FIND OUT all about that person FIRST before you TOTALLY FALL for anything they say. THERE ARE plenty of good business opportunity's on the web __but FIRST you have to KNOW the KEY people and be well connected. That way you'll ALWAYS have someone reliable to go to with questions BEFORE you make a decision and you CAN believe an INFORMED decision is better than a decision FORCED on you by hype, other people online helping other people or a new friend connect you make in Social Networking!
You wouldn't buy a new car without FIRST checking out everything that came with it __would you? You wouldn't PAY a HUGE price for a new car without shopping around __would you? SAME GOES for EVERYTHING in life __IF YOU WANT the BEST __You MUST do some good research, shop around first and THEN FIND the RIGHT people that can steer you in the RIGHT direction!
Please just stay CAREFUL and FOLLOW YOUR HEART!
Viktoria & Gary Affron
Phone: 386-438-8056
No problem pat, Anytime you want to talk off line contact me, Chris@unlimitedwizard.com
Also we have put out there we are helping any company by putting them in direct contact with my contacts, That is what we have been doing lately we now provide for 4 wireless MLM Companies plus our own.
Good Luck to you Pat, I hope you can find a home in this business, it is one of the greatest professions in the world.
Pat,
Don't join any of the wireless MLM business opportunities. I would give them up to a year to get settled. Many of them go brogue in the meantime. I have friends that lost thousands based on these guys promises, furthermore you don't even know if some of these positive comments are actually individual reps or comments made from the scammer trying to make it seem that they have phones and everyone is making money since it is sooooo easy making comments on this site.
Another thing, I know people in the wireless market and they are familiar with these prepaid wholesale accts and they say that Sprint will only activate their 4G EVO under their retail sales and not available for their wholesale prepaid accts which uses a different network and has NO 4G networks open for wholesale prepaid accts. Sprint charges an additional $10 for their 4G Network so why would they start competition on the prepaid market for their newest 4G Network when they do not have to, they want to make as much money as possible while the product fresh.
The only wireless MLM company that has real phones and never misses a payment is Lightyear Wireless. Their products aren't too exciting but at least they are the strongest out there and safer than all of tnese other scammers.
Bill, I didn't quite understand what you are trying to say, it sounded like you were saying Sprint won't activate the EVO on a pre paid account. We get the EVO for $89.95 mo flat, no contracts, no credit check, no add'l taxes/fees, pre paid mo. to mo.
Real Source
Greco you are so full of s**t, all you have ever delivered is empty promises. You have lied to so many companies and it's distributors. It will be a sad day in the MLM Wireless Industry if a Company has to rely only on you. Your lies and your past actions will catch up to you.
Real Source
I guess these guys at zoom are doing a great job with their company. I am happy for them. I just don't understand why they would crap on liberty international which is now Liberty Freedom Network . They were reps for liberty and were taking their down lines and starting this new entity. I don't find that commendable. I see it as a theif. I do understand that you want to be your own brand and own your own but don't crap on the ones that got you started. All I can say is karma is a son of a gun and it will turn around and bite you in the rumper. Other than that good luck with this Zoom company and we'll see you at the finish line.
Anthony,
Zoom has hit the benchmarks they have set so far. I did receive a new HTC VOIP/Wireless Phone in the mail and will be doing a review on how the service works shortly. One thing they seem to be doing is specking out the phones they want manufactured and having custom apps designed exclusive to the Zoom Network.
Who cares about Zoom and their low budget pay plan…its a insult!
Wow pay 340% more than zoom in cycling, I did the math…not to mention the FREE 10 level bonus ! (1.4 mill on the 10th with wow).
Wow $7700 a day…zoom 3k if you ever get there with the strings attached !
Wow have 3/free for everyone…zoom at your sponsor level or higher…total b/s
With Wow kids were making grands with Wow…zoom they make hundreds…this I know for sure !
Who in zoom is making bank ?…no one !
You have 4 years of work in zoom to = Wow in 1 year !. (did you not do the numbers ???)
Loyal WOW Rep,
Now, don't fall into this trap. You have done well to stay above it to this point, and stay on focus as a proud loyal WOW rep. I know it can be frustrating, but folks who may be watching looking for a solid leader at WOW and you are the real deal!
Anthony,
It is called America, not trying to be a smart ass but it is QUITE QUITE common in the United States for a company to be formed by former reps/employees who want to launch there own brand. That is the beautiful thing about our country. Now that WOW is back up, it seems like everyone is trying to gang up against Zoom Mobile with these remarks. I have said nothing but good things about WOW and that I am glad they are back up so we can all work on fixing the Wireless MLM Niche image.
Nick Schycker
Zoom Founder – TX State Manager
Nick,
Not just America but Free Enterprise period!
And people need to realize it is not the formation of a company by former reps, distributors or even equity partners that is in question. It is doing it right. All throughout business history we see successful companies launched by former employees, distributors and partners. The auto industry, telecommunications, investment firms and the oil industry all come to mind. Real Estate is the big one where we see this happen all the time.
But, when people launch a company before their non-compete is up, or steal proprietary information to launch their company, then laws have been broken and lawsuits are filed.
It all comes down to ethics. Either people have ethics or they don't!
Troy,
I agree with you completely.
Troy WOW Mobile is back!
Everyone that left for greener pastures at ZOOM you have a rude awakening coming, I just got my phone activated today!! On Verizon!!
Troy I am here to tell you WOW Mobile is back, a friend of mine also in the business got his T-Mobile phone reactivated under our own service!!
I have heard the rumors that Greco is involved, I can't confirm that.
But if it is True than God Bless you for making things right with Mr.Jeffers and helping us get to where we need to be.
Troy I am very very excited, we have verizon, we have T-Mobile, we have AT&T, we have Sprint.
I think that about covers it all.
Thank you Troy Dooly, I really look forward to your post on the new WOW Mobile.
Danielle
Tuson, AZ
Worth the Wait,
I am glad to hear things are moving ahead. Please keep us posted.
WOW (no pun intended) Greco and WOW Mobile now that should bring out some critics.
Please keep us posted, and I'll see what Randy has to say.
What can I say, I was wrong, I was wrong about Randy, I was wrong about WOW, I was, and me thinking of leaving for ZOOM or anywhere else, I owe my downline and my company an apology, I also owe an apology to Mr.Grecco, I was very hard on him as I should have been after what he said at DNA.
But I believe everyone deserves a second chance, And even though I know we haven't said it publicly, I know Mr.Grecco is involved, it took a lot of digging but my sim card is registered to Grecco Holding Group.
I am not sticking up for Mr.Grecco, not in any way shape or form for his past transgressions, but I am willing to look to the Future, and I want to say thank you for helping us in our time of need and giving us our hope back.
I know it may not mean much. But I am ready to move forward and am excited about your helping us.
I was able to have my phone active in 12 minutes after opening the fed-ex envelope containing my WOW Mobile welcome packet and sim card.
So I have unlimited everything on my Galaxy again, and I am ready to rock this thing on out.
To the ones that have left…..You always have a home here at WOW Mobile, We will see you back soon.
Sean Jackson
Future WOW Mobile Millionaire.
Glad to see WOW got it together I know a lot of people were waiting. My reputation was definitely damaged when WOW had there issues.. I am happy with Zoom Mobile they have been good to there reps. Maybe with them up and a couple other strong Wireless MLM's we can repair this tarnished sector of the industry. Good look to all the WOW reps. I remain with Zoom Mobile.
P.S. I know a lot of you WOW reps are excited as can be that they are back up just make sure you post correct information and just because you are back up doesn't mean it's time for you to blast other companies. Competition is healthy and there is PLENTY to go around with the wireless niche.
Nick Schycker
Zoom Founder – TX State Manager
YYEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!
WOW Mobile is back!!!!!!. My phone was activated, I am using my same galaxy I ordered a few months back, I love it, Unlimited everything, And I am paying less than when we had T-Mobile. This should put all other companies on notice, you counted us out……and just when you thought we were out……we get right back in it in a big way.
I am hearing activating HTV EVO's on our own CDMA platform is here… Talked to a girl out in Arizona today who had her DROID X activated through wow with Verizon Today, Unlimited Talk, Text, and Data for only $59.99…. Unbeatable…..
I am so excited we are back and we are here to stay.
Dean
Loyal WOW Mobile rep who weathered the storm.
WOW is back,
Hey this is great news. I did call randy today to get some scoop before Friday. Keep us posted.
Not only that… Wow Have CDMA, GSM, PCS-S, and PCS- M (pcs-m unlimited talk text and data/tethering @ 69.95!!!…that's $53 without the taxes fees !!!). EVO's, Droids, and More!
A little birdie told me WowTV's vendor was squeezed…now he may deliver…fingers crossed….by the way this was NEVER Liberty's fault !, we were told several times by the provider of delivery dates that were not fur filled…Liberty has done its part…plus putting up a lot of money to the provider…Don't blame Liberty for this OK!…we will see when it gets here… be patient !
Liberty is doing a Stellar job…whats coming down the pipe will surprise all !
To all you leap floggers…on a little Lilly pad…good luck!
Troy,
Don't you agree this whole topic was about Zoom and ZRT… We have all these WOW people (which I am happy to see them back up and running supposedly) coming in here and Ra Ra'ing about WOWs return and take over of the industry, which I doubt especially if the company is going to be managed like there last run… Folks one of many problem(s) WOW had and you would KNOW IF you were doing any kind of numbers is there customer service was absolutely terrible, so many reps dropped because of the sheer fact YOU just could NOT get in contact with anyone to save your life!!!… AND they still owe a TON of people refunds (I personally know of 6 who are owed multiple months of service that they did not use because they DID NOT have a phone, and still to this day DO NOT have a phone) If WOW is back up then they need to settle there debts that they have with I'm sure hundreds if not thousands of individuals who are stilled owed money. Best of luck to all you WOW peeps!
Nick Schycker
Zoom Founder – TX State Manager
Nick, it does amaze me. if I were a rep with any company I would want ALL the positive info on my company in the comment section of an article about my company, where realtime prospects will see it.
Now it could be that since some of Zoom folks were with WOW they want those folks to know great things are happening, and I can understand that, but I would post on every article.
Nick why don't you go lay by your dish. were you a bully in school? do you constantly feel the need to bad mouth other people/companies to make yourself feel better? The have therapists for these problems maybe you should go get checked out. I am happy to hear that WoW mobile is back on track and coming together and getting all their stuff figured out. I have access to a couple thousand people and have been following WoW mobile, Zoom mobile and ZRT now for awhile. I can't wait to see what happens next with these companies my prediction is two will rise and one will fall. I don't see WoW mobile falling i see them getting up and being very successful. I have looked at ZRT, and the people in that company are dynamite people, and they have a lot of drive and determination and they have a great structure they are going to be very successful. Now that leaves Zoom mobile. I think by reading this post i think you guys already know where i think they are going.
By the way are you guys Zoom mobile or Zoom mobile nigeria?
Which company are you with again? WOW or ZRT? Obviously one of them by your posting… I was just stating the facts, no opinions here. We will see how "dynamite" ZRT is. I can't wait to see what Troy has to say about them in a review.
Last time I checked Zoom Mobile Nigeria served NIGERIA go look at there coverage map for yourself. That is a whole other entity in itself buddy. Why don't you check out the name of the company you are either WITH, or are ROOTING for which I could care less about… Your "dynamite" company shows there creative and ultra-high intelligence with the first acronym Z standing for "Zoom"… Hmmm.. That's funny, I think there is a company in the MLM wireless niche with that in there name as well. Couldn't of been more creative? From what I have heard and seen on the net about the people who are running ZRT it doesn't surprise me to say the least.
One last topic, and then I have other things to do besides sit on here and read replies. I think it's absolutely HILARIOUS how quick you are SM to make judgments about which companies will come out on top. ZRT is not even off the ground, and yet you are already saying they are going to put Zoom Mobile to shame, even though Zoom has delivered on everything thus far. I have not seen a wireless company deliver like Zoom has which is why I have the utmost respect for what the company is doing, and where they are heading. I do believe 2 companies will rise to the top SM, I think you already know by reading this post which companies I see rising, and which one I see falling… Only time will tell.
Nick Schycker
Zoom Founder – TX State Manager
Honestly I am not with a company…yet. I have checked out all three though. Well Nick how about you go check again, and realize that Zoom mobile Nigeria is a American and European owned company. I’m surprised they haven’t sued zoom mobile for copyright infringement. So your zoom mobile delivered everything it’s said it would huh? I know for certain there are people in your company that haven’t received their founders bonuses.
You have no idea what the Z stands for in ZRT it isn’t zoom. It is Zen. So why don’t you learn what you are talking about before you open your big mouth. Who have you heard from about ZRT? George Burton? Matthew Davis? The two that basically launched a smear campaign against The CEO of ZRT and His significant other? Oh and by the way I was right about WoW mobile they are makeing a come back. Kudos to Randy Jeffers and all his allegiances.
SM,
Based on the pop-up disclaimer on the ZoomNigeria.com website it is very clear they are operating in Nigeria. It doesn't matter if they are owned by a US company. Since they are not operating here, there is no infringement at this time.
They also make it very clear in the "About Us' page when, how and why they were formed
"ZOOMmobile was incorporated on August 25, 1998, as Reliance Telecommunications Limited (Reltel Wireless), taking advantage of the deregulation of the sector by the then Federal Government of Nigeria."
And since their head office and all other offices are located in Nigeria, I do not see any competition.
"HEAD OFFICE:
8, Adeola Odeku Street,
Victoria Island,
Lagos, NIGERIA."
And where have you read that Zoom Nigeria is a USA/European owned company? In this Trade Reference Report I do not see any mention of foreign ownership.
After reading the posts on here I have started my interview process. I can guarantee this, there is a lot more to this whole he said she said fight that gets posted on here. It's like I stepped back in time and landed on a school playground. One of the dumbest fights I was ever in started from people spreading around the wrong information. Meanwhile everyone forms a circle yelling fight! fight! Almost forcing it to happen. After the fights over, someone is left hurt. This is exactly what this promotes. I have spoke to key people in this mess and what I have found is both shocking and disturbing. Some of the people you claim are fighting aren't even fighting at all. They just recognize the power of the exposure that they get on here. For some reason we don't see WOW reps slamming ZRT I wonder why that is? We also have never seen ZRT slamming WOW I wonder why that is? I scroll back through the blogs and I see things like good luck ZOOM MOBILE. I read things like Matt Davis is not part of ZRT but again wishing him well. This goes on for a while till you push and push to far. ZRT lashes out and posts some true facts and Troys response is prove it. Zoom Mobile accuses someone of stealing a data base to recruit people? Troy's response is I got no reason to not believe them. Troy pretends to be fair and open blah blah blah. It's obvious how shallow he really is all you have to do is ask him a question he does not like. He will quickly tell you things like "you don’t want to piss me off" again BLAH BLAH BLAH . So I do some research in the MLM world and find what serious companies think of Troy's opinion's and his blogs ect. One of the funniest responses was " he's the soap opera king" One of the saddest one's so far is he tries to play God in the MLM world and has created enough havoc that some little companies starting up lost their financial backing, for no other reason than misinformation being put on the net. Troy gets to say I didn't say or write it so it’s not my fault but hey here's my attorneys contact info. You do realize when you make dumb statements on a situation that has the potential to end up in court, like having first hand information, you no longer get to hide behind the laws that protect your little blog. I hope someone does drag you into one of these court battles. I have first hand information on a lot of these issues fully intend to form yet another alliance out there and provide people with the truth at all times my blog is coming very soon and I bet it will be pretty easy crushing your ratings of course they will spike momentarily if you have the guts to even post this. Maybe it's time for someone to come after you. I think maybe a deposition is in order lets gets some true answers under oath with a court reporter present. Did you know you can even depose a sheriff, a congressman, a Governor, and a judge? Then we get to decide what to do with the information. How do we know this? We have already done it. I'm sure we can figure out how to put that into action for you {piece of cake} I met with the owners of two companies that your little blog prevented from even getting off the ground so I told them how to depose you and gain a lot of exposure doing it. I gave them friendly advice not legal counseling and put them in contact with someone that can and will drag you into court. Asked ZRT if they would like to join the suit we will be filing and they said not at this time. SHUCKS!!! I will be contacting several others this coming week to join in REMEMBER YOU HAVE FIRST HAND KNOWLEDGE AND IN THIS GREAT COUNTRY ONE HAS THE RIGHT TO FACE ANY AND ALL OF THEIR ACCUSERS BOTH FIRST HAND AND SECOND HAND. You want some ratings we will see if we can help you out there!!!! What's in it for me? Haha a shot at using you to become "well known "as you have done to others with no regards to anyone. One of the companies you helped crush was a family man with a great idea, and you crushed him by allowing crap to carry on… "fight! fight! Nothing but a bully with an ego by the way he was also a disabled vet I didn't see that posted anywhere on your blog. How can you stand people like Nick Shclyker has he ever even met anyone he talks about? He represents zoom mobile (TEXAS)? WOW!!! ZOOM spent a million bucks on the bus? Probably leased I would say if it isn’t leased it’s 120,000 tops. Might have used a million dollars of the founders money driving it around the country eating steak dinners and sleeping in hotels that sounds more like the truth. I hope WOW and ZRT Form an alliance with a couple more companies, and roll right on past Zoom Morebull I mean Zoom Mobile. Oh darn now I have pissed Troy off, Pissed George off, Pissed Nick off and probably pissed WOW and ZRT off by mentioning their names. (I find out this week) Just call me the Howard Stern of the MLM wireless world. I also liked how you twisted the question about being in WOW haha. Shoot pissed you off again what will I ever do? Sue me! Haha. your easy!!! SM
SM,
An interesting comment to say the least. Since you call yourself an advocate, I am amazed you did not provide your name.
Let's take a look at a few of the items you raise.
1. You seem to feel there is a bias on my part, and that I am not being fair and balanced, can you explain why? It sees using the phrase (blah, blah blah) is somewhat shallow instead of being specific in what I am biased on. Although, it could be said I am biased on wanting a profession where companies do treat the distributors right, and where distributors fully understand they need to represent the companies with the best intentions.
2. What true facts have been published by someone with ZRT? So much has been written, I am somewhat taken back you did not get specific. Especially as an advocate. And if you are talking about the "Matt Davis email" I did make it clear what has been posted here and other sides would not be used in a court of law. It must come from the email server, by a forensic security expert with the complete header intact.
3. As for the "not want to piss me off comment" I do believe you are referring about bring my minor children into a debate. I'll stand by the comment. I also have addressed the the issue at hand on several videos and in articles. What exactly is your point?
4. What serious companies are you referring? Again as an advocate why are you using such ambiguous comments? Are you referring to the over 100 companies we have given positive reviews, or the 13 I issued scam alerts on?
5. As for "playing God" seems you have me mixed up with other folks. Lord knows I am anything but a God, in MLM or otherwise.
6. As for "little companies" I find this very interesting of a comment. Please explain how this blog or I personally has any effect on a company in which we have not written about? Please share the exact companies you are referring and what miss-information? Again as an advocate, it seems you would want the true out, not ambiguous, and subjective information.
7. You are correct, that if I did not say it, or write it, I will not claim it. However, I have never hidden from anything I have written or said. And when it has been wrong, I admit it, and write and talk about my error just as publicly as the original article. Again be specific.
8. Thank you for your concern on my First Amendment Rights, in regards to this blog. I do understand the laws regarding blogs, and even the most current finding by the 9th Circuit in regards to anonymous posts and comments. You will find I do not have any concerns with court.
9. We will all look forward to your blog. At least we finely got down to why you were writing. People need good info, and if your blog is full of solid content, then folks will come and read. As for ratings… You must not have read many of the posts or you would understand my thoughts on ratings. But hey, I am writing a new article about the web and ratings in this months newsletter, if you subscribe you can read it.
10. Depose my on what? And what grounds? You are correct you can depose any publicly elected official on anything to do with the decisions they have made while in office. I am not an elected official, and do not plan on running anytime soon.
11. Please be specific and share which two companies you met with. If they have never gotten off the ground, then I really don't think we have reported on them. I have a very small footprint on the net compared to other advocates and/or watchdogs, so I really doubt anything I have to say will keep a company from launching. And you are right, this is a very small blog compared to the big ones in this great profession where most of the traffic ends up.
12. As for your advice to any company, thank God we live in America and you can share your opinion while hiding your true identity on the very blog you question. It does give you great exposure when you launch your own. By the way, no one has to drag me to court. I love our judicial system, and all it stands for.
13. Let' see my use of "first hand knowledge" doesn't mean I will share it. Just because I have it, doesn't mean I "Have" to share it, even after being sued. At least not until the Supreme Court tells me I have to share it. That is the great thing about our Constitution and our Rights!
14. Exactly what have I accused anyone of? By the way, the Right you are quoting is for criminal cases not civil actions.
15. This rating crap is old. Have you ever looked at our ratings? Maybe you should look at them, before talking about ratings. We dip below 100K as much as we are above it, if you are looking at Alexa. Sport, ratings is very old school.
16. ROFLOL… If you want to use me to become "well known" you really did pick the wrong person. You should have gone after someone well respected. Based on what you have stated here, I have no respect from influential people in this great profession. You might want to use Rod Cook, Len Clements, or Kevin Thompson to get famous.
17. As regards to regards to others… An interesting comment based on the fact you have gone through this blog.
18. I can tell you this, if you expect to get famous, you need to get specific. People want facts not subjective opinion from someone who is looking to get famous.
19. As for a "bully and ego" again it is very clear, you have not read through this blog, visited any of our other blogs, or ever listened to one of our radio shows. So, since I have no clue what you are referring, and whoever you are referring never called and talked with me, guess I will see them in court. And you are right, since I have no clue what you are referring you do not see it on my blog. Not sure what the "DV" has to do with anything. Again, you need to be more clear on your accusations.
20. Now I am really confused, what does Nick have to do with me? Nick is a manager in Zoom, and a contributor to this community. Nick will have to respond for himself. Although, I can say over the last 12 months or so, Nick has made some pretty valid points here on the blog and through email to me.
21. As for the money Zoom may have invested and where, I have no clue, I am not part of Zoom. But, I have been told by Zoom legal counsel and George Burton that seven figures were used to launch the company. They never said on the bus alone.
22. As for pissing me off. Not at all! I am proud of those who stand on their Right of free speech. This is one reason we gladly post what folks write. Although, I might not agree with all you write doesn't mean you are wrong in stating it. We just have different worldviews.
23. I have never twisted the question about WOW! I have publicly addressed on several occasions. But, if you read through the blog you would already know that, wouldn't you?
Well, I truly look forward to your clarifications on some of what you wrote.
Living An Epic Adventure,
Troy
p.s. Sometimes "easy" is in the eye of the beholder 🙂
SM,
Stop hiding behind a screen name and be upfront with WHO you are.. I don't see why you would hide UNLESS you HAVE something to hide.
Now, I am going to get right to the point instead of addressing your WHOLE ongoing grammatically incorrect mess.
You stated "How can you stand people like Nick Shclyker has he ever even met anyone he talks about? He represents zoom mobile (TEXAS)? WOW!!! "
First off, SPELL my name correctly if you are going to address or mention me in a post. Second, since the corporate staff (CEO, VP, COO, etc..) is currently IN my city of San Antonio, TX and has been for the past few weeks… You think there's a good chance I have worked side-by-side with ALL of them?? Let alone "met" them.. I'll let you answer that. Not to mention they came to visit myself and my organization when they were on tour with the Zoom Mobile bus back in May, we were the last stop before they returned.
So… YES, I have worked closely and have a great relationship with the corporate staff in Zoom Mobile. You are so QUICK to make fun or criticize my position as a Texas State Manager in the company… I can't figure that out, but then again you are the one like Troy said, calling yourself an "advocate" YET you hide behind "SM" as your screen name.
Good luck with your blog.. You going to refer to yourself as SM on that as well?? Take care buddy.
Nick Schycker
Zoom Founder – TX State Manager
.Love all the my MLM Wireless is better than yours stuff. Guys just go work your business, check out any company before you leap. And if you believe in them shut your mouth put your head down and build your biz.
Troy have you ever had the realization about yourself, and that you dont like where you are at, I was just sitting here and thinking damn I am an asshole, I mean everything I said and did to Ted and I am not denying it, All over pride and bullshit, I have caused so much un necessary bullshit in this industry, and even now, when I am trying to fix shit, I sit back and I still see in some of my responses how much of an ass I am.
Just a realization, Don't get me wrong about Global Verge, I am still royally pissed about the whole situation, B2B screwing up records, Not having things in line, Reps getting phones not renewed, I am just sitting back and wondering what would have happened if I was humble, Maybe Global Group doesnt leave, Maybe we worked out are issue and moved forward, Maybe me and my old friend raymond wouldn't now hate each other.
I just had to time to calm down and look at everything and there is no doubt I have (pardon the language) fucked a lot of things up. I mean I am trying to make things right with randy, and have moved forward, but I am always talking about how I am always about the reps, But in me thinking I was helping the reps, (and I know I helped some) but I may have hurt more than I helped.
I had to not work today because I had to see the docs today and I had to see the people over my Trust,
This may be the last time you guys hear from me here.. No I am not leaving techsoft mobile, I may no longer be an officer there, I may just become a distributor so I can really see what it is like for you guys everyday.
No I am not going soft, I just can admit when I am wrong, and as for Ted Robbins, I apologize, I come from a background that is WIN BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY and thats how I do business.
But in this case, I am wrong, I have got about 400+ emails about how much Ted is a family man, I remember me him and mark were going to Five guys for lunch one day and he was talking about his persian wife and the customs and shit, I just screwed up on this one Troy, Can't say what will happen in the other lawsuit But I will be owning this one no matter if it breaks me, Because after some of the shit I said I deserve it, But what made me really realize that today was have my baby girl in my arms and saying damn if someone said that shit about me it would crush me, So I can empathize, I don't care if Ted Robbins accepts my apology or not, But for me and my people I have to admit when I am flat out wrong. So when I have time next week ill be calling Mr.Hardy to arrange to have it done, Don't have much in my name legally but hey we'll see where it goes.
Thats all I will ever say about that…. EVER…
And this will most likely be my last post.
Chris Greco
Wow! Chris are you serious? What a turnaround!! I don't know you, but I have been following your post. If this is not a joke and you have really had an awakening, let me say this: "God throws our sins into the Sea of Forgetfulness and He remembers them no more. If you are able to ask those guys to forgive you that would be wonderful, but if not they have read it here, and once you choose to forgive, even when your head sometimes can't wrap around it, you know in your heart that you have. The Main Person who needs to know that you are sorry is God Himself, that is what His Son died for, while we were yet sinners He saved us,. And whether all of us MLM'ers become millionaires or not, we all have to stand before God, if you are like me, you want Him to say–'Well done.' " Chris I wish you well.
Chris, What the hell is this. Dude are you for real. Which Chris Greco alias just wrote this.
Real Source
Troy your right on the MATT ZOOM TJ THING, just me sticking my foot in my mouth, Anyway, it is what it is, We will see what happens with it all.